Hi Jezra,
I don't know really know what is the path forward or the scope of the
rocket bar.

On 2014-04-16, 12:34 PM, jezra wrote:
> Armen,
> I'm a ZTE Open owner so I don't have access to firefoxos images that
> contain the rocket bar. However, if the bar is anything like the
> v1.1 "search bar on the homescreen that I never use and I can't remove
> and replace with what I want", then I hope the rocket bar gets
> decoupled as well so that I as a user can remove it from my device.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2014
> 08:23:46 -0400 "Armen Zambrano G." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi jerzra,
>> I see the point of that.
>> I wonder how that decoupling will play with the rocket-bar (I believe
>> the idea is to remove the browser completely and make it ubiquitous or
>> something like that). I could be misunderstanding what the plans and
>> timelines are.
>>
>> On 2014-04-15, 5:49 PM, jezra wrote:
>>> I would say that step 1 is to uncouple the single most important
>>> application from the OS and put it in the market place so that users
>>> aren't beholden to OEMs for updates to the browser. 
>>>
>>> There is already a ticket for this.
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=973372
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:10:12 -0400
>>> "Armen Zambrano G." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Max, Adrian,
>>>> I agree that the situation is less than ideal, however, this is not
>>>> what things will be like forever.
>>>>
>>>> I want to point out, that Firefox OS coming out on 2013 was a 1.0
>>>> release. That means that a lot of sacrifices had to made to hit the
>>>> schedule. The mobile industry is very demanding specifically with
>>>> schedules. There's a saying in software development which is "you
>>>> have to get to 1.0 to even be able to ship a 2.0".
>>>>
>>>> It is very unfortunate that early adopters have to face these
>>>> difficulties; knowing that you're supporting us and trusting
>>>> something very dear to you (your phone and personal time if not
>>>> more than that).
>>>>
>>>> As you can probably imagine, dealing with EOMs is not easy. The
>>>> mobile industry in general is not easy. It is very cut-throat and
>>>> don't necessarily look towards long-term support.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, Mozilla is here to change things for the sake of
>>>> the public. There is a limit on how much we can influence the
>>>> industry, however, we have already seen a lot of changes which
>>>> eventually will percolate to the end-users (e.g. EOMs working in
>>>> "open" issues rather than behind closed doors or contributing code
>>>> to an open source initiative).
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how to help you in this specific issue, however, look
>>>> for the "Let's fix updates" thread in this mailing thread. I
>>>> assume good stuff will come out of it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for supporting the open web and I hope that a way to help
>>>> you can come out of all the conversations.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely yours,
>>>> Armen
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-04-14, 7:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> I can only wholeheartedly agree with adrian on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> What i expected from fxos was one thing primarily: a good web
>>>>> browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead i get this excuse of a firefox that:
>>>>> * can not be upgraded
>>>>> * can not be configured
>>>>> * does not run adblock
>>>>> * crashes on 80% of all websites
>>>>>
>>>>> i get weekly updates for marketplace and wikipedia. I couldnt care
>>>>> less.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>


-- 
Zambrano Gasparnian, Armen (armenzg)
Mozilla Senior Release Engineer
https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/armenzg/
http://armenzg.blogspot.ca

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