On Monday, July 14, 2014 5:40:58 PM UTC-4, Adrian Custer wrote:
> On 7/14/14, 5:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > Related to this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1038045
> 
> >
> 
> > Basically, on my ZTE Open under FFXOS v2.1, multitouch only sort of works.
> 
> >
> 
> > What this means is that multitouch only registers discrete inputs when 
> > there is a large Y-Axis (taken from phone's "normal" portrait orientation) 
> > delta between the two fingers.
> 
> >
> 
> > If the Y-Axis delta approaches zero, FFXOS seems to average the location of 
> > the two inputs into some intermediate point.
> 
> >
> 
> > See this video for a demonstration of this behavior:
> 
> > http://youtu.be/n9cVHCBHuYY
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> >
> 
> > Furthermore, the ZTE Open under FFXOS v2.1 seems unable to register more 
> > than 2 discrete inputs, likely due to the above issue with the Y-Axis delta.
> 
> >
> 
> > This bug severely limits the number and kind of gestures the ZTE Open can 
> > support under FFXOS, and makes even the stock gestures usable in only very 
> > specific circumstances.
> 
> >
> 
> > For instance, as in this bug, 
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1037894 , the Pinch to Zoom 
> > gesture will ONLY work when the device is in Normal Portrait, or inverted 
> > Portrait orientation.
> 
> > Video of this behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgaUxMYGOvs
> 
> >
> 
> > So, what I'm asking for is if anyone would be willing to test out this app 
> > & report back to me:
> 
> > https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/multitouch-detect
> 
> >
> 
> > I need three things:
> 
> >
> 
> > 1) Device Name & FFXOS version
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> >
> 
> > 2) How many fingers (max) it could detect
> 
> >
> 
> > 3) Whether or not two fingers side-by-side (Y-Axis delta =ish 0) registers 
> > discrete or "averaged" input
> 
> >
> 
> > I'm curious if this is only a ZTE Open issue, or only a v2.1 master issue, 
> > or what, and Gabriele would like some further info/clarification on what 
> > devices/OS versions are impacted.
> 
> >
> 
> > Thanks all!
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> 
> Hey,
> 
> 
> 
> Have not yet tried your app but I wrote something similar when I was 
> 
> working with multi-touch.
> 
> 
> 
> On the Alcatel One Touch Fire (aka hamachi) device, my conclusion was 
> 
> that we were working with very limited hardware. While debugging my 
> 
> multi-touch library, it became apparent that a simple pinch would not be 
> 
> recognized correctly. As the fingers pinched, the device might decide 
> 
> that a finger had been removed, then that it had returned to the 
> 
> surface, then that it had been removed... It became apparent that 
> 
> providing a reliable experience on unreliable hardware was going to take 
> 
> a bunch of work. So I have left off that for lower hanging fruit.
> 
> 
> 
> Also, on that device, multi-touch is limited to two. I have never seen a 
> 
> third touchstart event after two earlier touchstart events with no 
> 
> touchleave in between. I filed a bug wanting information about my code 
> 
> (i.e. if it were my code or my hardware) but have not yet gotten any 
> 
> help or comments on that bug.
> 
>    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=951163
> 
> Attached to the bug, you can find my test application that merely logs 
> 
> what events the app happens to receive as you move your fingers around.
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> 
> 
> cheers and good luck,
> 
>    ~adrian

Thanks for the info Adrian. That isn't my app, but merely the only thing that 
showed up in the marketplace when I searched for "multitouch".

So it appears from what you're saying that the Hamachi acts similar to the ZTE 
Open in terms of multi-touch detection. This could indicate a software/driver 
issue, unless the two devices use the same screen/controller.

Could you test it in the manner I do in the two videos to see if it is the same 
Y-Axis delta issue that I see on the ZTE Open, or some other issue entirely?

Thanks,
Brett
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