On Tuesday 2014-08-19 00:21 +0200, Jan Keromnes wrote: > Another point I'd like to bring up is that Nightly remains a playground for > (sane) experiments. It's where new code arrives daily (well, nightly) right > after it's been reviewed and tested. Sadly, this doesn't prevent things > from breaking, or just not working right, and Nightly is another layer to > keep Firefox safe. It's not something reliable you can expect to do stable, > productive work on. True, it does receive a lot of bug fixes, but it's also > where all the nastiest bugs and regressions happen before we can catch > them. Thanks a lot for being one of our test pilots, helping us catch the > problems before the code rolls over to stable and to millions of trusting > users, but judging from your remarks maybe Nightly is not the best > experience you can have of Firefox.
Jonas said this already, but I'd like to say it more clearly: the above is not how we should respond to bugs being reported in nightly. The reason we get useful feedback from Nightly is because we have people using it. In order to keep people using it, we need to keep it to a reasonably decent standard of quality; enough that people who are ok living a bit on the edge *can* expect to be stable enough for them. If we lower the standard of quality, we'll push away (quickly!) some users and get fewer bugs (and not get the bugs that the more picky users will file). If we increase it, we'll (slowly!) gain more users. The more often we give responses like the above rather than backing out or fixing patches that cause bad regressions, the fewer users we'll have on nightly, and the less value we'll have from having patches on nightly at all. And it's rather easier to lose users when nightly becomes unstable than gain them when it becomes stable again. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914)
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