ok, cheers ;-)

Chris Mills
   Senior tech writer || Mozilla
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   [email protected] || @chrisdavidmills



On 15 Sep 2014, at 19:47, Tony Chung <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chris, that link looks good to me how it is now.  think you should leave it 
> separate as another article.    i simply missed it the first time.    Thanks 
> for pointing it out!
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Chris Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> We do cover this in the following section of the main Flame article:
>> 
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Linux_and_Mac
>> 
>> I’d love your feedback on what could be better written. Perhaps I should 
>> transfer all of the details over to the Flame article, rather than  linking 
>> to another place.
>> 
>> Some more comments below:
>> 
>> Chris Mills
>>  Senior tech writer || Mozilla
>> developer.mozilla.org || MDN
>>  [email protected] || @chrisdavidmills
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Sep 2014, at 17:52, Gabriela Montagu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tony, many thanks for answering me so quickly!!!
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid there are things I don't understand how to do such as: 
>>> 
>>> edit the android.rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ : 
>>>  SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}==“05c6", MODE="0666", GROUP=“plugdev"
>>> 
>> 
>> This can be a bit tricky, as this location is hidden by default. To find 
>> this, the easiest way is to open your Files application, then choose the 
>> menu option Go > Enter Location, then in the box that pops up, enter 
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/ and press return. You cna then edit the android.rules 
>> file with whatever plain text editor you are comfortable using. Create a new 
>> file called android.rules, if it doesn’t already exist in that location.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Supposing I get to do all the above, how do I flash the builds?
>> 
>> You should be able to follow the instructions in this section:
>> 
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Updating_your_Flame%27s_software
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone in the TCP channel gave a link to some unofficiall nightly builds 
>>> and told me I could use them to falsh the same way I do with my Keon using 
>>> Windows. The link is the following:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.codingfree.com/p/firefox-os-builds.html
>>> 
>>> Could you please tell me if there would be some risk using the above?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I would recommend that you use the builds listed on the official page, at:
>> 
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Updating_your_Flame_to_a_nightly_build
>> 
>> Although you should Flash the base build first.
>> 
>> I’ve updated my Flame using these instructions many times, and haven’t had a 
>> problem. It is pretty reliable.
>> 
>> I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 September 2014 13:27, Tony Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Gabriela,
>>> 
>>> you certainly can try adding android.rules for your Flame to your ubuntu 
>>> machine.   Yes, you may need sudo access to edit the file.   Can you find 
>>> out who can give you the administration rights?
>>> 
>>> Once you obtain them, follow this
>>> 
>>> For the device to be seen on ubuntu:
>>> 1.  $  lsusb
>>> 
>>> look for the device ID on your Flame.  Should say something like:
>>>   "Bus 001 Device 023: ID 05c6:9026 Qualcomm, Inc.  "
>>> 
>>> 2. you will have to edit the android.rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ : 
>>>  SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}==“05c6", MODE="0666", GROUP=“plugdev"
>>> 
>>> 3. to restart the process : 
>>>  sudo vi /etc/udev/rules.d/android.rules
>>>  sudo service udev restart
>>>  sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>>  sudo reload udev
>>>  sudo udevadm trigger
>>> 
>>> 4. $ adb devices
>>>   Verify your device is now seen by Ubuntu
>>> Once you have ADB access, you can flash the device if you have the builds 
>>> handy.
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> 
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Marek Raida <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,I used the latest ubuntu,and no udev rules were necessary to update - 
>>>> could also be the case of your current distro version...
>>>> M.
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, September 15, 2014, Gabriela Montagu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Tony and Marek
>>>> 
>>>> Very sorry for my delay!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Tony, 
>>>> I have an Ubuntu/linux machine at the palce I work. I've installed adb but 
>>>> now, according to the TCP channel people trying to help me, I need to 
>>>> create a file for the udev rules and then enter 2 lines in it. I need 
>>>> administrator rights to do this as I don't have them, so I depend on 
>>>> someone else willing to do it for me so..... It doesn't seem so easy as 
>>>> you say, just tranferring the files and fllash them...
>>>> 
>>>> Marek, 
>>>> Using my USB stick, instalingl some linux live distribution on it, boot 
>>>> and do whats needed... doen't seem so difficult but.... which linux live 
>>>> distribution do I have to use? Would I have to create the udev rules with 
>>>> the 2 lines in it all the same? If so, the problem is I don't know how to 
>>>> do it... :(
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks​ for trying to help me​!
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Gabriela
>>>> QA Mozilla Hispano Responsible
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.mozilla-hispano.org
>>>> http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
>>>> http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 September 2014 15:27, Tony Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Gabriela,
>>>> Agree with Marek.  Do you have a linux distro machine that is running ADB, 
>>>> that you can just transfer the files and flash from ?
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Marek Raida <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I discourage you to try it on Windows+Cygwin, it failed me always.
>>>>> In it's stead, use yoru USB stick, install some linux live distribution 
>>>>> on it, boot and do whats needed...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, 1 September 2014 22:21:52 UTC+2, Gabriela Montagu  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could any one of you help me flash 2.1 to my Flame device using Windows 
>>>>>> please? If so, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I already have the Windows drivers, the Nightly build and the Gaia zip 
>>>>>> but I need the appropriate command to flash them using Windows and I 
>>>>>> would need to do in to help test some specific things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabriela
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.mozilla-hispano.org
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 August 2014 16:41, Paul Rouget <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just FYI, in WebIDE, there are buttons to root the phone when it's 
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Runtime > Runtime Info.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We use run ADB for the user, and run scripts to root ADB server side.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Asa Dotzler wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/6/14, 9:15 AM, Josh Aas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I got a Flame phone and wanted to update it to 2.0 nightly so I could
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> test/dogfood. Last week I couldn't figure out how to do that via the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Flame home page, but someone has since added instructions. Thanks to
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> whoever did that!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One issue with the instructions, though, at least on OS X - they only
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> really work if both flash steps are run as root (sudo). Flashing the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> base doesn't require root, but the flash to 2.0 nightly requires the 
>>>>>>>> adb
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> daemon to be running as root, and if you didn't flash the base as root
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> adb will not be running as root. You'll need to do "adb kill-server",
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> which most people won't know how to do. If you didn't run the base 
>>>>>>>> flash
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> as root, and you figured out how to kill the adb server, you then need
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to run the second flash as root to get adb to start as root. We should
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> either recommend that people run the flash commands as root (prefix
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "sudo"), or explain how to get adb running as root first.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Other than this, the page's information is much better than before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Still could be better organized, though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Mills manages this page, with input from me and other Flame
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> team folks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm glad it's an improvement. I've copied Chris on this in the hopes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that he can find a way to incorporate the Mac OS X note into the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> instructions -- assuming that's as expected and not a bug for us to
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> fix.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the great feedback, Josh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - A
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> -- Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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