Here maps isnt installed by default on the user builds any more, however a
lot of people, possibly using old builds or installing it themselves
specifically mentioned that here maps wasnt good enough, particularly in
relation to offline support. I am not sure many people realised here
supports offline at all, however its behind a nokia login and fairly
limited.

The other part of this that was commonly called out was the GPS
reliability, people complained about not being able to get a fix, it was
unreliable or slow

Fixing GPS obviously needs to be one of the highest priorities, I know its
hard problem due to the interaction with the vendor however we cant be
handwavey 'its a build issue' any more, if someone on the v188 with the
latest gecko is not getting a fast GPS fix we need to know why, I walked
around my area with mozstumbler specifically in the hope that it was a lack
of agps coverage that was causing the slow fix, but it is still to slow to
count on it existing at all, there are also an indication that there are
gecko level breakages (one application has a fix, another doesnt, restart a
map after having a fix and it will no longer have one)

Also I do believe investing in a Mozilla Maps project would be highly
valuable, I dont think any other company is going to invest in improving
their web capable map applications to make them anywhere near competitive
or as usable as the native equivalents and maps are too staple a smartphone
feature to have a large gap in functionality.

On 16 December 2014 at 04:09, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Dale Harvey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Most people commented on the lack of specific apps. The lack of good GPS
> /
> > maps / navigation was by far the most commented on lack of functionality
> /
> > apps, then there were some common suspects, the most popular of these
> being
> > WhatsApp, DropBox, Spotify, Google Hangouts, Skype, Instagram
>
> Do we not have Here Maps installed on our dogfooding devices? I know
> that the builds I've been dogfooding with hasn't had it, but for some
> reason I was under the impression that the dogfooding builds we've
> been using more broadly has had it?
>
> Or is the problem that Here Maps isn't good enough?
>
> / Jonas
>
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