On 8/19/2014 14:15, Greg Norcie wrote:

I understand there's limited developer resources, but frankly, this seems like pretty minor fix. If the user is in the magic year, ask for a full birthdate. And we wouldn't even need to retain the data right? Just that the verification passed? So it's not like there is a privacy issue. I think we should think about the signal we are sending to the community if we leave this bug open. Do we want to tell an already disenfranchised group we don't care about them?
+1. Why not go with 3a? Is there any BHAG for how much work it is?
Just my two cents,
Clint
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Greg Norcie

On 8/19/14, 1:20 PM, Edwin Wong wrote:
Sorry - I was quick to the punch there... That was in reference to solution #3 or #3a.

I think if we're going 'improve' age verification, we need to support the exact dates for 13 year old. I'd choose the least amount of work possible to support exact age verification but with no impact on users over 13.

-edwin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edwin Wong" <[email protected]>
To: "Nick Alexander" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:16:17 PM
Subject: Re: Improving age verification

At first I thought the same... but the MM/DD/YYYY picker ONLY displays if you pick the year that says you're 12 or 13. If you are over 13, you will never see this date picker/form fields.

-edwin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Alexander" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:34:10 AM
Subject: Re: Improving age verification

On 2014-08-19, 10:25 AM, Ryan Feeley wrote:
Hi all,

Currently our sign-up form makes users feel older (born 1990 or earlier?), and excludes some kids born in the magic year: https://accounts.firefox.com/signup

Finally… here are three proposals to improve our age verification:
https://www.lucidchart.com/documents/view/9a25eda5-f03d-46c0-80bf-756cd17da7c3

Remember that The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA) is a United States federal law that requires that we use a “neutral" age verification mechanism.

I believe option #1 and #2 are neutral, but I’ll require legal input for #3.

Which do you prefer: #1, #2, #3, #3a or leave it the same?

Entering YMD (#1) on mobile is out of the question. Unbelievably
terrible with keyboards, Swype, auto-complete, etc.

I could be convinced that #2 without the day field (what do we care?
round!) is worth it.  But maybe we just go for a larger year range.

#3 is a lot of effort for a really small win.  In general, my political
features are not unduly ruffled by denying folks in the cusp year access.

Nick
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