Honestly, it kinda cracked me up. "Ease" or "provide just enough
information" doesn't matter to the person. They want accuracy.

Obviously, we should opt to allow uses to specify their age in milliseconds.

(Things only 9.46 * 10^11 ms kids would understand)

On 2/16/2015 11:28 AM, Ryan Feeley wrote:
> It's true. We are required by COPPA legislation to implement a
> "neutral age verification mechanism". Instead of using a date picker
> for a birthday (which is usually three pulldowns) we chose something a
> little unconventional that we hope causes more accurate input. We
> noticed that Tumblr’s legal team seems to be okay with a simple: How
> old you are? <text input> which I think might be even easier and end
> the grandpa comments. I could check with legal.
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Tarek Ziade <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Nicholas Alexander
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Hey Tarek,
>
>         On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Tarek Ziade
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Hey
>
>             Someone tweeted me:
>             https://twitter.com/johnke/status/566570679123058688
>
>
>         Wow, that's quite a thread!
>          
>
>
>             and looking at a recent change in b2g about that
>
>             
> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/commit/3afef63b0389b066f2bc1cc05944ffe1633caec9
>
>             I am wondering: what's the rational behind "1990"..
>             shouldn't it be 2002 ?
>             shouldn't we dynamically pull the "19xx and earlier" choice ?
>
>
>         I think jgruen and rfeeley have the most UX context here, and
>         presumably there's a legal person with legal context we could
>         ask.  I believe some of the language in the Act requires
>         service providers to not make it "easy" to avoid the
>         requirements of the act.  I know one concern was that
>         identifying exactly the magic year might be construed as
>         violating COPPA.  That, for example, is why essentially zero
>         sites ask: "Are you 13 or older" -- it leads the user too
>         clearly.  There is some doubt as to whether asking per year up
>         until 13, and then having an "I'm old enough" category is also
>         violating.
>
>
>     Interesting.. (and quite odd :)) - we should simply display a
>     floppy disk picture and ask them what it is. ;)
>
>
>     I am adding Fernando to this thread since I guess b2g seems now
>     slightly different in that aspect.
>
>      
>
>
>         Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer!
>
>      
>
>
>         Nick
>
>
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