On 10/07/2015 05:47, Benjamin Niolet wrote:
> 
> Email on Acid offers seed testing, which is the same type of service I
> mentioned to Ryan in Whistler. The basic gist of how it works is you
> send an email to a bunch of inboxes controlled by the testing service.
> They are able to report on whether the message made it to the inbox
> (might have gone to spam or might have even just gotten lost in the
> mail. Strange but true).

I had a poke around on their site, and I wasn't able to find anything
that specifically talked about "seed testing" of the same elaborate type
that ReturnPath does.

The closest I found was the "spam testing" section which claims to check
against common filters, but doesn't talk about any details of how it works:

  https://www.emailonacid.com/spam-testing

Brent's comment suggests that that don't have anything quite equivalent
to ReturnPath, so perhaps we have a need for both services.  Ben or
John, do you have any more info on this service specifically from EoA?


  Ryan


> I have never used Email on Acid for seed testing, but I suspect it's a
> lot cheaper than ReturnPath, the service I'm most familiar with. Since
> we already have an Email on Acid account in use, and from what I can
> tell, seed testing is included, this seems like the right service to
> start with.
> 
> Brent, any flags or blockers on using Email on Acid for seed testing the
> AWS confirm emails for accounts?
> 
> Ben Niolet | Email Marketing Manager
> Mozilla | [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Ryan Kelly <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     On 9/07/2015 03:13, John Gruen wrote:
>     > We should really be doing a better job of automating and testing spam
>     > scores for FxA emails.  One of the major factors determining email
>     > spammy-ness is the overall reputation score of the email service
>     > provider. This means that running spam tests from localhost will not
>     > produce consistent, representative data.*
>     >
>     > Thus far, we’ve been using Email on Acid to test our emails. In
>     Email on
>     > Acid world, a proper spam test would mean sending emails from our
>     > production servers to a specific set of secret email addresses
>     provided
>     > through the EoA account. I’ve generally enjoyed using EoA,  but maybe
>     > there is better tooling out there. Either way, I think we should do a
>     > better job establishing situational awareness about where our
>     emails end
>     > up. It’d be great if the whole thing were automated so that when we
>     > deployed each new train, we automatically kicked off full email test.
> 
>     Sounds extremely worthwhile.  I'm cc'ing Ben who may be able to comment
>     on whether EoA is the best choice for automating this, or if we have
>     existing agreements with a similar service.  I recall him mentioning a
>     similar-sounding service at Whistler.
> 
>     > Oh, also, it seems like we could buy a team license to EoA or
>     Litmus and
>     > I could stop paying for this stupid thing out of pocket. We are, after
>     > all sending out a TON of emails. Thoughts?
> 
>     Yes, assuming with stay with EoA, we should definitely do this!  LMK if
>     you're paying out of pocket for any other services as well, and we'll
>     make sure we get better arrangements in place.
> 
> 
>       Cheers,
> 
>         Ryan
> 
> 
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