On 23/11/16 09:23, Sean McArthur wrote:
> Much of that all sounds great to me! Should we add these things to the
> FxA schedule in sched? It looks like most other teams in the Firefox
> org[1] have sub-tags, I'm not sure what it takes to get
> https://hawaiiallhands2016.sched.org/overview/type/Firefox/Accounts

I'd like to, but it's not obvious to me whether we can just add events
to that thing ourselves, or if it's populated based on room reservations
for the week (which we won't be able to get, because there's no free rooms).

In any case, taking a look at the sched, here's the broader shape of the
week that we need to fit in around:

* Tuesday: plenary in the morning, firefox all-hands in the afternoon,
           a couple of free hours from 2-5pm.

* Wednesday: ckarlof org 2017 from 11:30 to lunch, electives from 3pm,
             so no really large chunks of free space.

* Thursday: nothing scheduled for the morning, electives from 3pm

* Friday: free team time for the whole day!


So my suggestion for a high-level schedule would be:

* Tuesday afternoon seems like a good opportunity to go do something
  fun as a team and just enjoy being all together.  The afternoon
  backs on to free-form Resort Dining time so we could also go to
  dinner together somewhere nearby.

* Wednesday morning is a good opportunity for 2017 planning and
  vision-setting, both as a team before-hand, and at the larger
  session with the rest of :ckarlof's org.  We can pitch ideas and
  haggle about OKRs and other fun stuff like that.

* That leaves big chunks of time free on Thursday and Friday for
  hacking sessions or smaller group sessions as mentioned in this
  thread.  The downside though being that we might be exhausted by
  the time that rolls around...and might need another out-and-about
  activity on the Friday afternoon :-P

Thoughts?


  Ryan

> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:13 PM Alex Davis <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     +1 for 2017 planning
>     +100 for fun in the sun :)
> 
>     --
>     Alex Davis // Mountain View
>     Product Manager // FxA & Sync
>     (415) 769-9247 <tel:(415)%20769-9247>
>     IRC & Slack: adavis
> 
>     On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ryan Kelly <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>         On 23/11/16 06:42, Alex Davis wrote:
>         > I propose we make a schedule so we can do a few different things. I
>         > don't think we need to limit ourselves. Many things can benefit 
> from the
>         > team getting together.
>         >
>         > Here are proposed ideas I suggest we dedicate time to since we can 
> get a
>         > lot of value discussing them as a team:
>         > - tools and hacks to boost productivity (suggested by Shane) - 
> maybe a
>         > half day
>         > - meeting with the QA team that will help us moving forward (discuss
>         > process with them) - only 1-2 hrs
>         > - tackle data loss via password reset (OKR #3) ... might be worth
>         > including Sync team on this one - maybe a full day
>         >
>         > Also maybe worth exploring/discussing:
>         > - release cycle speed
> 
>         Two other topics I think we should fit into the schedule:
> 
>         * 2017 and our plans for it; big-picture thinking type stuff.
> 
>         * (as Shane reminded me just now) Something fun and outdoors
>           in the sunshine :-)
> 
> 
>           Cheers,
> 
>             Ryan
> 
>         > As per catching up on technical debt, I'm not sure if there is any
>         > benefit in doing it together. (correct me if I am wrong) In 
> yesterday's
>         > retrospective, it was proposed to take time every week for this
>         > (Fridays). This makes more sense to me. I think it's something we 
> should
>         > do regularly and not just as a one off.
>         >
>         > Thoughts?
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > Alex Davis // Mountain View
>         > Product Manager // FxA & Sync
>         > (415) 769-9247 <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
>         > IRC & Slack: adavis
>         >
>         > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Shane Tomlinson
>         > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>         wrote:
>         >
>         >     Following on from this conversation, albeit somewhat
>         tangential to
>         >     "shippable" work.
>         >
>         >     One thing I'm interested in learning more about is how
>         other people
>         >     work and what
>         >     tools and hacks they use to boost productivity. For
>         example, I've
>         >     been using vim for years,
>         >     the key sequences I use all the time are burned into my
>         brain, and I
>         >     get frustrated when
>         >     going to a machine that doesn't have all the same keys
>         mapped and
>         >     plugins. I've been
>         >     using Atom for the last week to see whether it can make
>         certain
>         >     things easier, and
>         >     unsurprisingly, it does. I see Vlad and Vijay use
>         WebStorm, and I'm
>         >     sure it has
>         >     some awesomeness too. Another example is both Phil and I
>         use iTerm,
>         >     a couple
>         >     of months ago Phil showed me a "replay" feature that
>         re-runs the
>         >     command line
>         >     history - my head exploded. jrgm pulls out bash foo all
>         the time
>         >     that I'm just like
>         >     "whaaa? That's possible?". Each time I see things like
>         these, I feel
>         >     like I'm
>         >     slightly more productive.
>         >
>         >     What other secrets do people have that could make others more
>         >     productive?
>         >
>         >     Things I'm personally interested in:
>         >
>         >       * Keeping up with the Mozilla Firehose.
>         >       * Speeding up the dev cycle.
>         >       * Editors and what they provide.
>         >           o vim shortcuts, plugins.
>         >       * Searching/finding snippets.
>         >       * Writing tests to be more reliable.
>         >       * Anything related to git.
>         >       * Searching server logs for problems.
>         >
>         >     What can I show? I dunno what's worthwhile to others, is there 
> anything
>         >     others wonder how their teammates approach?
>         >
>         >     We might not need a full-on session for this, but if anybody has
>         >     anything they wouldn't
>         >     mind showing off, you have an audience of at least 1.
>         >
>         >     Shane
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >     On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Alex Davis <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>         >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >         Following up on what Ryan and Shane said...
>         >         Here are a couple of things that might be nice to work on 
> with
>         >         Feeley (if he is around) since it could really help to have
>         >         engineering, product and UX putting their brains together 
> at the
>         >         same time:
>         >
>         >           * OKR #3: Reduce likelihood of user losing Sync data
>         >
>         >         KR
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Rating
>         >
>         >         Establish metrics and dashboard for measuring when users 
> lose
>         >         their data.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Reduce voluntary password resets by 20%. 7% → 5.4%
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         This one seems particularly hard since the challenge of
>         >         balancing good UX and solid security is a tremendous 
> challenge.
>         >
>         >           * Get Feeley's proposed reversed sign-up flow up and
>         running
>         >             and ready to A/B test.
>         >
>         >           * Phase 3-4 of email confirmation flow that we
>         worked on in
>         >             Toronto
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Just throwing those out there...
>         >
>         >         --
>         >         Alex Davis // Mountain View
>         >         Product Manager // FxA & Sync
>         >         (415) 769-9247 <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
>         <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
>         >         IRC & Slack: adavis
>         >
>         >         On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Shane Tomlinson
>         >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>         wrote:
>         >
>         >             I have a not-so-secret-secret (as in, it's not secret at
>         >             all, I talk about it regularly). I take a little bit of 
> time
>         >             every train to pay down technical debt and only rarely 
> do I
>         >             feel that time could be better spent elsewhere. FxA is 3
>         >             years old now and has tons of little niggles. Those 
> little
>         >             niggles can seem like a big burden, so it's nice to get 
> rid
>         >             of them.
>         >
>         >             I find paying down debt helps to keep me engaged - 
> sometimes
>         >             a small win is all that's needed to brighten an 
> otherwise
>         >             difficult day. I take pride in the code and enjoy 
> making it
>         >             better, it has become a regular process.
>         >
>         >             My idea for maximizing Hawaii is to work on things that 
> are
>         >             easier to coordinate when others are in the room. If an 
> item
>         >             of debt meets that criteria, then yeah, perfect. The 
> way my
>         >             quarter is shaping up, I have a feeling I'm going to be
>         >             bugging people mostly for "connect another device" and
>         >             related tasks.
>         >
>         >             Shane
>         >
>         >
>         >             On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Phil Booth
>         >             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >                 Oh Vijay, that's a great shout!
>         >
>         >                 I have so many open quality issues on the 
> back-burner,
>         >                 which I never seem to make time for but really want 
> to
>         >                 work on. Maybe I'm just bad at prioritising stuff 
> but
>         >                 having some official technical-debt time would be
>         >                 brilliant I reckon.
>         >
>         >                 +1
>         >
>         >
>         >                 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Vijay Budhram
>         >                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >                     I think having a focused 2-day hack sprint 
> would be
>         >                     great. However, I have a counter proposal.
>         >
>         >                     > What should we try to do
>         >
>         >                     I think it would be cool to help reduce some of 
> the
>         >                     technical debt that has accumulated. These are
>         >                     things that we normally don't get to make 
> explicit
>         >                     time for but would make our lives better in the 
> long
>         >                     run.
>         >
>         >                     1) More stable testing environments
>         >                     2) Faster functional tests
>         >                     3) Migrate projects to Yarn?
>         >                     4) Build trigger to test entire stack against
>         >                     specific commit in any project
>         >
>         >                     I'm sure there are more things that could be 
> added
>         >                     but that is off the top of my head.
>         >
>         >
>         >                     On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Sean McArthur
>         >                     <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>         >                     <mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >                         The Hawaii work week is only 3 weeks away! 
> We're
>         >                         starting to see more and more that can be 
> part
>         >                         of our schedule, and we could try to plan
>         >                         something FxA-related that we want to get 
> done
>         >                         that week. With travel days, plenary and 
> other
>         >                         required bigger-org meetings, we could have
>         >                         around 2.5 days to be together and get 
> something
>         >                         done.
>         >
>         >                         Would you all be interested in planning some
>         >                         sort of sprint thingy, similar to what 
> happened
>         >                         in Toronto? Maybe we can plan a 2-day hack
>         >                         sprint where on Friday afternoon we can 
> show off
>         >                         a working thing-a-ma-jig.
>         >
>         >                         What should we try to do? Should we 
> continue on
>         >                         the idea that was brainstormed in Toronto? 
> Or is
>         >                         there some other small experiment someone 
> has
>         >                         wished we could just make happen with some
>         >                         concentrated effort?
>         >
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