Re-reading my own post... about half a dozen typos in 2 lines! I must have been 
_very_ tired. Sorry about that. 
And now back to the subject :-)

I do understand your point. We don't need all the nice bells and whistles the 
multisite module is offering (e.g. url shortening and stuff -> if you _need_ 
that, you're in the EE market). I just need a way to run multiple STK sites in 
one Magnolia. No sharing of anything is needed. We don't call it 
"multi-tenacy", we call it "simple multisite" ;-)

If I understand your side note correctly you are encouraging the community to 
come up with such a solution? So far I did not dare to promote this path since 
"multisite" is one of your key ee _pro_ features.

-will


On 13.09.2011, at 11:44, Boris Kraft wrote:

> 
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Will Scheidegger wrote:
> 
>> - Multiple sites > this is my 5% where I don't agree. We'r already loosing 
>> against PHP hosting with Java solutions (money-wise). If we need to run each 
>> small STK site in 2 magnolia instances of their own, we definitely our out 
>> of the game for small customers. Currently we're running up to 20 and more 
>> sites in one Magnolia (JSP-Sites). And we're doing all new sites in STK.
> 
> Unfortunately this is nothing we can tackle from our side. Multi-site is a 
> huge value proposition for large customers, especially because it comes with 
> a whole set of complexities.
> 
> What you *really* mean here is a multi-tenant solution, which is a different 
> business-, although technically related problem. 
> 
> In a multi-tenant solution, you don't share templates, you don't share users, 
> you don't share content etc. All you share is the hardware and the request 
> app server. This is each site in its sandbox.
> 
> In a multi-site scenario, you must be able to share and manage arbitrary 
> content, templates, users… whatever. But at the same time you need to ensure 
> specific access rights etc. There is a lot of complexity there.
> 
> From a business perspective, multi-tenancy is not interesting for Magnolia. 
> If we'd have multi-tenancy, we would probably make it CE exactly for this 
> reason - cool for small sites, good to compete against php solutions. But we 
> don't have multi-tenancy. We have multi-site.
> 
> Side note: Our goal is that we enable, entice and empower the community 
> enough to add features they find interesting for their use cases. Magnolia 5 
> will make this much easier.
> 
> - Boris
> 
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