Mozilla proposed the NPAPI changes to get rid of windowed plug-ins [1] but there wasn't a big enough reason to change the Flash Player at that time--the threat of content breakage wasn't that high. If content breakage is certain via multi-process with windowed plug-ins, then Adobe will likely be more motivated to make the changes. Should I get a call going over there?
--Jet [1]https://wiki.mozilla.org/NPAPI:AsyncDrawing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert O'Callahan" <rob...@ocallahan.org> To: "Benjamin Smedberg" <benja...@smedbergs.us> Cc: dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org, "John Schoenick" <jo...@mozilla.com>, "Bill McCloskey" <wmcclos...@mozilla.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:20:05 PM Subject: Re: Flash and e10s On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Benjamin Smedberg <benja...@smedbergs.us>wrote: > The primary reason I know for windowed Flash to be a huge PITA is because > of the deadlock issues caused by attached input queues. I'd love to force > Flash to be windowless and use our fullscreen support instead of their own > windows, because this would fix many of the deadlock issues. > That would be nice. What other issues are you concerned about specifically? Managing window geometry from the master process is going to be a bit of a pain, since we'll have to combine information from the content process(es) with information about the geometry and visibility of the browsing context. It's doable though. > >> One idea I had is this: suppose, independently of e10s, we make Flash >> click-to-play. (I understand this is already a goal, or at least a wish.) >> > It is neither a goal nor feasible. We did user research into this at the > beginning of the year, and there is enough hidden Flash out on the web that > click to play is just too confusing for the average user. > OK, that's very good to know. That scotches my idea. Thanks! Rob -- Jtehsauts tshaei dS,o n" Wohfy Mdaon yhoaus eanuttehrotraiitny eovni le atrhtohu gthot sf oirng iyvoeu rs ihnesa.r"t sS?o Whhei csha iids teoa stiheer :p atroa lsyazye,d 'mYaonu,r "sGients uapr,e tfaokreg iyvoeunr, 'm aotr atnod sgaoy ,h o'mGee.t" uTph eann dt hwea lmka'n? gBoutt uIp waanndt wyeonut thoo mken.o w * * _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform