Mike Hoye wrote:

On 2013-08-30 3:17 PM, Adam Roach wrote:

On 8/30/13 14:11, Adam Roach wrote:

...helping the user understand why the headline they're trying to read renders as "Ð' Ð"оÑ?дÑfме пÑEURедложили оÑ,обÑEURаÑ,ÑOE "Ð?обелÑ?" Ñf Ðz(бамÑ< " rather than "? ??????? ?????????? ???????? "??????" ? ?????".

Well, *there's* a heavy dose of irony in the context of this thread. I wonder what rules our mailing list server applies for character set decimation.

When I sent that out, the question marks were a perfectly readable string of Cyrillic characters.

Which provides a strong object lesson in the fact that character set configuration is hard. If we can't get this right internally, I think we've lost the moral ground in saying that others should be able to, and tough luck if they can't.

For what it's worth, the original came through Thunderbird as a perfectly legitimate string of Russian at my end:

??????? ?? ????? ????, ??????? ?? ??????? ????, ??????? ?? ???? ?????? ? ???? ??????. ??????? ?? ???????? ???? ???????, ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ????????, ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ???????.

I just see question marks here, but then again the headers in both messages declare a character set of ISO-8859-1.

As for the original message, it seems to have been corrupted, for instance € characters have been turned into EUR. Maybe it got "converted" from Windows-1252 (which has the € character) into ISO-8859-1(which does not)?

(I remembered at the last minute to change my character coding to something other than ISO-8859-1 so hopefully those euro signs pass through intact.)

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