Something new to this ???

Greets, Tobias.


Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2014 21:44:16 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias Besemer:
> Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2014 14:05:39 UTC+2 schrieb David Rajchenbach-Teller:
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> > Let's concentrate on Session Restore for the moment.
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> OK, it was just because of the example and the need for a "Journaled Storage" 
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> > Adopting a Journaled Storage will let us decrease the total amount of
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> > I/O. Once we have sufficiently fine-grained differential updates, either
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> > Journaled Storage or Sqlite would allow us to change only a single tab
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> > (or even a single attribute). Both Journaled Storage and Sqlite also
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> > need to consoldate their data.
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> Yes. But as far as I understand it (and I can surly be wrong), a SQLite-DB is 
> always the same file. It grows, consolidate, maybe shrinks ... but always the 
> same file on "the same place" ...
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> Working with sequential files creates always for some changes a file with 
> this changes, then creates a new one for the next changes ... then 
> consolidate, delete the old ones, creates a new and new files for the new 
> changes ...
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> A lot of files gets written and then deleted again ... the file system 
> creates new files always on that places, that was deleted first ... this is 
> fragmentation ... the more files that gets written and deleted again, the 
> more fragmentation ... the head of the HD starts to "jump around" between the 
> files, need energy, need time, make the access slow ...
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> Also a lot of small files waste a lot of unused space, because of using 
> always complete blocks on the HD ...
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> > It is possible that Sqlite would be more efficient than Journaled
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> > Storage for this use case. At this stage, I cannot tell. However, it is
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> > certain that Sqlite would kill all existing add-ons and recovery
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> > mechanisms for Session Restore, while Journaled Storage would not, so
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> > Sqlite would need to be much, much better than Journaled Storage to
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> > justify such a migration.
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> I'm not really a programmer and I'm not really involved in the source ... but 
> whats about of a kind of "abstraction layer" ???
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> At first all can stay the same then before, just the ASCII File will be 
> replaced with a SQLite File with one table with one field. This should remove 
> that always the file gets new created (written). As far as I understand, a 
> ASCII File will be always new written, getting a new place on the HD, right? 
> An SQL File will be updated ...
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> Later the cell can be spited / redesigned ...
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> New APIs to write to the new cells ...
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> The old API can be changed to trigger the new APIs ...
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> ... and then should all be down-version compatible ...
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> The old APIs can then be "deprecated" ...
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> So, as I'm said, I don't be involved in the code of FF ...
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> Is this much more work/harder then do the changes for the "Journaled Storage" 
> ???
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> FF is for the open web ... OK, a "Journaled Storage" is maybe readable with 
> an ASCII Editor ... but not really a standardized file format ... not much 
> usable for a power user or admin ... difficult for an programmer ...
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> ... an SQLite DB can be opened, used, converted with a lot of programs ... I 
> think even LibreOffice can open it ...
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> I used for the Places DB this one:
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> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/
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> It's not that I persist on SQLite!
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> It should be just a discussion about the pro and contras of it ...
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> > Cheers,
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> >  David
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> Greets, Tobias.
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