So some comments on the ARIA charter at
https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter :

So one concern I've heard about these charters and that I probably
share is that the ARIA charter says:

  For every platform with mappings in an Accessibility API Mapping
  specification, at least one implementation of 75% of the mappings
  being tested on that platform will demonstrate implementability on
  that platform. Multiple implementations of each platform are not
  required because some platforms have only one implementation. For
  features that are not platform-specific, passing test results in
  at least two different implementations will be documented to
  demonstrate implementability.

This is a substantial weakening of the W3C's usual rules for
demonstrating interoperability, and seems likely to be a bad
precedent.  I guess it seems OK to have only one implementation
if there's really only going to be one implementation on that
platform... but allowing it in general (i.e.,  seems less than ideal, and
allowing only 75% of mappings to be implemented to count as
success seems pretty bad.


Also, the two references to a deliverable of the SVG working group
when the SVG working group isn't currently chartered seems
problematic.


I think otherwise this seems fine.

-David

On Thursday 2018-07-12 16:06 +1000, James Teh wrote:
> I (and others in the accessibility team) think we should support these
> charters. The ARIA working group is especially important in the future
> evolution of web accessibility. I have some potential concerns/questions
> regarding the personalisation semantics specifications from APA, but
> they're more spec questions at this point and I don't think they need to be
> raised with respect to charter. Certainly, cognitive disabilities is an
> area that definitely needs a great deal more attention on the web, and the
> APA are seeking to do that.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:57 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
> 
> > The W3C is proposing revised charters for:
> >
> >   Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working Group
> >   https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-apa-charter
> >
> >   Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA) Working Group
> >   https://www.w3.org/2018/03/draft-aria-charter
> >
> >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2018Jun/0003.html
> >
> > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> > Friday, July 27.
> >
> > The changes relative to the previous charters are:
> > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%
> > 2Fwww.w3.org%2F2015%2F10%2Fapa-charter&doc2=https%3A%
> > 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2018%2F03%2Fdraft-apa-charter
> > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%
> > 2Fwww.w3.org%2F2015%2F10%2Faria-charter&doc2=https%3A%
> > 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2018%2F03%2Fdraft-aria-charter
> >
> > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> > support or oppose it.
> >
> > -David
> >
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