On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 05:14:47PM -0700, fantasai wrote: > On 10/04/2018 04:26 PM, Steve Fink wrote: > > On 10/04/2018 03:45 PM, fantasai wrote: > > > Start here, at Mozilla's home page: > > > https://www.mozilla.org/ > > > > > > Give me steps to reproduce to find instructions for filing > > > a bug against Firefox. Ditto for up-to-date instructions > > > for building the source and submitting a patch. > > > > > > (Don't send me links to the instructions; I'm cheating by > > > asking here already. Walk me through the process of > > > discovering how I can contribute to Mozilla and make the > > > world a better place. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't > > > already walked that path 19 years ago, but I can't find it > > > anymore so I need some help.) > > > > I tried it out, and did better than I expected on my first run-through: > > [...] > > I'm impressed! Want to take a stab at finding patch-submission > instructions? :D > > > I agree that a nice path from www.mozilla.org would be beneficial, > > especially for promoting the volunteer aspect of the project. > > We've got a lot of highly-produced (read: expensive) material > promoting the volunteer aspect of Mozilla: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/ > But afaict none of it actually leads to a viable path towards > actually becoming a technical contributor... > > From my discussions with staff at Mozilla, the people actually > working with volunteers (like QA and l10n) find this very > frustrating, but the people whose job it is to connect volunteers > to opportunities to contribute don't think it's useful, important, > or in some cases even a good idea to fix this problem. I don't > know how to break through that resistance, and I find it very > demoralizing that there even is any. :( > > I'm also disconnected enough from Mozilla the last few years > that I've no idea where up-to-date documentation on this stuff > would live. If I ever manage to dig myself out of the backlog > of spec work enough to write a patch, I'd like to know where > to look! > > Fwiw, here's how I arrived at becoming a technical contributor: > https://web.archive.org/web/20000125153750/http://www.mozilla.org:80/ > > https://web.archive.org/web/20000301043132/http://www.mozilla.org:80/get-involved.html > > https://web.archive.org/web/20000302035824/http://www.mozilla.org:80/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html > > https://web.archive.org/web/20000304015940/http://www.mozilla.org:80/newlayout/bugathon.html
I gave a shot at a generic "I want to contribute" approach of the web site. Starting from https://www.mozilla.org, there's a "Get Involved" link at the top, which leads to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/, which has another "Get Involved" button... which leads to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/signup/, a disappointing list of 3 simple items, 3 "more challenging" items, and ... nothing else. And what items: - simple - Connect with Mozilla on Twitter - Use Firefox on your phone - Discover why we can't live without encryption - more challenging: - watch someone live hack on Firefox - Learn a bit about coding (which is disappointingly a link to developer tools challenger) - Start using the Mozilla Sumbler app Why there's no link to https://codetribute.mozilla.org/ is beyond me (and it does not help to get to filing new bugs, though) Mike _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
