Peter Eckersley dixit:

>On 10 April 2014 00:46, Kaspar Janßen <[email protected]> wrote:

>> If someone pays 100 USD for certification, he consideres to pay 100 USD
>> for revocation. If someone doesn't pay for certification, he will
>> hesitate to pay even 1 USD for revocation.

No. I fully expect a revocation for security reasons (as opposed
to just a customer saying so out of a whim) to be free of cost,
in all cases. It is acceptable for the CA to not reissue a cert
to that customer subsequently. A rekey would be preferable.

>> That makes me question if a certificate signed by StartCom can be
>> considered as trustworthy.
>>
>> I confrontated StartCom with my doubs and pleased them to find a way to
>> solve this hurdle. They wrote me: "This will not happen without changing
>> the entire business model".

>Kaspar, suppose that Mozilla followed your suggestion and removed
>StartCom's root certificates from its trust store (or revoked them!). What
>would the consequences of that decision be, for the large number of domains
>that rely on StartCom certs?

Mozilla is big enough to make StartCom reconsider this stance
(especially as approximately two or three people *did* get the
fee waived – I, along with several others, didn’t, and there
are cases where such a fee cannot realistically be paid).

And, if not, well, bite the bullet. Distrusting StartCom would
aversely affect me too, but unless StartCom changed their stance
until Friday, 16:00 UTC, I’ll be pushing for removal of all of
their certificates from the root store.

This is not a contractual matter between StartCom and their
users. This is about the stability of the cryptographic
ecosystem, and, in this case, a CA, every CA, has a public
responsibility (especially due to the oligopoly they have).

See also my eMail <[email protected]>
which apparently hasn’t made it to this list yet.

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
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