On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:00:41 PM UTC-4, Eddy Nigg wrote:
 
> I do have a few questions to you! How can you know that a site using a 
> certificate from ANY CA isn't or wasn't affected by the Heartbleed bug? 

I'm planning on a more thorough answer that cross references the SSL 
observatory data from 2010 with a fresh update, and with published CRLs. One 
would expect that each CA would have about 17% of their issued certificates be 
revoked and re-keyed due to heartbleed. In a day or two I should have some 
stats.

But meanwhile, there is no way for me to know how many pkeys out there have 
been leaked. Google and a couple others had advance notice of the bug and I 
would imagine they've scanned the internet before the bug was announced, and 
have a more comprehensive list of certificates at risk. Maybe someone from 
Google can chime in? I fully expect them to build a blacklist into the 
SafeBrowsing Chrome filter.

As you well know, there is a sizeable number of admins that had the bug, and 
used a Startcom certificate, who are not planning on paying your fee. I have 
not heard of similar hardship from admins who use other providers' 
certificates. So it's fair to say, that the name Startcom will appear on a lot 
more compromised certificates, than the other guys names.

I hope to update you in a few days with some stats from my investigation into 
SSL-Observatory vs. current CRL lists, but I can tell you now that I see some 
CAs that had an average of 20 revocations/day in March but have shot up to 300 
revocations/day in April (ie, 15x increase). Startcom went from ~4 to ~22/day 
(5x increase). One would expect 17% of about 130k Startcom certs to be revoked 
due to heartbleed. (or a cool $500K, right?). However at the current rate of 
22/day, 82% of the affected certificates will still be valid on their 
expiration day.


> > Consider also that the presence of Startcom in this market is a barrier to 
> > entry to other, honest and potentially inexpensive CAs.
> 
> No, it's not, otherwise StartCom would own 100% of the market share 
> which it doesn't. The offerings of StartCom suite certain users and 
> others not.

Perhaps you are unaware of the competitive advantage you're currently enjoying.

Regards,
Radu Hociung
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