On 02/06/17 15:53, Gervase Markham wrote:
> https://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/symantec-s-response-google-s-subca-proposal

I'm slightly surprised to see no engagement here. Perhaps it would be
help to break it down. Symantec's specific requests for modification are
as follows (my interpretation):

1) Scope of Distrust

Google proposal: existing CT-logged certificates issued after 1st June
2016 would continue to be trusted until expiry.
Symantec proposal: all CT-logged certificates should continue to be
trusted until expiry.
Rationale for change: if transparency is enough to engender trust, that
principle should be applied consistently. This also significantly
reduces the revalidation burden.

2) Timeline

Google proposal: a set of dates by which certain milestones must be
achieved.
Symantec proposal: no specific alternative dates (more info by the end
of June), but the Google dates are too aggressive.
Rationale: need to establish business relationships; capacity issues at
Managed CAs; international requirements further complicate things; the
revalidation burden is very large; writing solid code takes time.

3) SubCA Audit Type

Google proposal: SubCAs are audited with the standard audits.
Symantec proposal: treat SubCAs as Delegated Third Parties and so give
them BR section 8 audits (an audit by the CA not an auditor; 3% sampling).
Rationale: none given.

4) Validation Task Ownership

Google proposal: Symantec and its affiliates must not participate in any
of the information verification roles permitted under the Baseline
Requirements. They may, however, collect and aggregate information.
Symantec proposal: Symantec currently uses a 2-step process - validation
and review. Symantec should be allowed to do the first, with the SubCA
doing the second (with 100% review, not samplingh).
Rationale: reducing the burden on the SubCA, reducing the time for them
to ramp up, and (presumably) to allow the Symantec personnel to continue
to have jobs.

5) Use of DTPs by SubCA

Google proposal: SubCAs may not use Delegated Third Parties in the
validation process for domain names or IP addresses.
Symantec proposal: SubCAs should be allowed to continue to use them in
situations where they already do.
Rationale: SubCAs should not be required to rejig their processes to
work with Symantec.

6) SubCA Audit Timing

Google proposal: SubCAs are audited at 3 month intervals in the 1st
year, 6 months intervals in the 2nd year, and then yearly.
Symantec proposal: after the initial audit, only yearly audits should be
required.
Rationale: Because SubCAs are established CAs, once an audit has been
done to validate the transition, the subsequent audit schedule should be
the standard yearly one, not the high-frequency 3/6 month one proposed.

7) Detailed Audits

Google proposal: Symantec may be requested to provide "SOC2" (more
detailed) audits of their new infrastructure prior to it being ruled
acceptable for use.
Symantec proposal: such audits should be provided only under NDA.
Rationale: they include detailed information of a sensitive nature.

Gerv
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