The question that I have is whether the community might consider it
in-scope to discuss enhancements (even fixes) to EV to arrive at assurance
commensurate to its handling.

Matt Hardeman

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy <
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> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]
> >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Certainly, as you noted, one option is to improve EV beyond simply being
> > an assertion of legal existence.
> >
>
> Does this mean we're in agreement that EV doesn't provide value to justify
> the UI then? ;-)
>
> I say it loaded and facetiously, but I think we'd need to be honest and
> open that if we're saying something needs to be 'more' than EV, in order to
> be useful and meaningful to users - which is what justifies the UI surface,
> versus being useful to others, as Matt highlighted - then either EV meets
> the bar of UI utility or it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then orthogonal to
> and separate from efforts to add "Validation ++" (whether they be QWACS in
> eIDAS terms or something else), then there's no value in the UI surface
> today, and whether there's any value in UI surface in that Validation++
> should be evaluated on the merits of Validation++'s proposals, and not by
> invoking EV or grandfathering it in.
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