Thanks, Clemens. I'll take a look.

Also, apparently my redlining was lost when my message was saved to the
newsgroup.

I'll see if I can re-post without the text formatting of strikeouts and
underlines.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:24 AM Clemens Wanko via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hi Ben,
> looking at what was suggested so far for section 3.2, it seems that the BR
> combine and summarize under "qualified" in the BR section 8.2 what you and
> Kathleen describe with the definitions for "competent" and "independent"
> parties.
>
> Based upon that, MRSP section 3.2 could be structured in the following way:
>
> ***** 1st: definition of "competent party" ******
> By "competent party" we mean...
>
> ***** 2nd: definition of "independency" ******
> By "independent party" we mean...
>
> ***** 3rd: now refer to the BR summarizing 1 and 2 up in the term
> "qualified assessor/auditor" *****
> By "qualified party" we mean a person or other entity or group of persons
> who meet *is meeting * the combination of the requirements defined above
> for a "competent party" and an "independent party" and as such meets
> *meeting * the requirements of section 8.2 of the Baseline Requirements.
>
>
> Further following that idea and syncing it with the wording also used by
> the BR, the current suggestion for MRSP section 3.2 could be
> revised/amended as follows:
>
> *****
> 3.2 Auditors
> Mozilla requires that audits MUST be performed by a competent, independent
> and herewith qualified party.
> [...]
> By "competent party" we mean a person or other entity *group of persons*
> who has the proficiency and is authorized to perform audits according to
> the stated criteria (e.g., by the organization responsible for the criteria
> or by a relevant agency) and for whom is sufficient public information
> available to determine and evidence that the party is competent *has
> sufficient education, experience, and ability* to judge the CA’s
> conformance to the stated criteria.
> In the latter case, "Public information" referred to SHOULD *** -> SHALL -
> Why not being more strict here?*** include information regarding the
> party’s:
> - evidence of being bound by law, government regulation, or professional
> code of ethics;
> - knowledge of CA-related technical issues such as public key cryptography
> and related standards;
> - experience in performing security-related audits, evaluations, and risk
> analyses; and
> - honesty and objectivity *ability to deliver an opinion as to the CA’s
> compliance with applicable requirements*.
> [...]
> *****
>
> Best regards
> Clemens
>
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