I am proposing that we make this a "SHOULD".  ETSI auditors SHOULD be
members of ACAB'c.

See draft language here:
https://github.com/BenWilson-Mozilla/pkipolicy/commit/01f15d4bc2cebfedd140dcb3285f50f6216984b8

"ETSI auditors SHOULD be members of the [Accredited Conformity Assessment
Bodies' Council][ACAB'c link].  WebTrust auditors MUST be [enrolled in the
WebTrust program][WebTrust link]."

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:06 PM Moudrick Dadashov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> With all due respect to ACAB-c,  currently the term CAB means a
> proffesional accredited by NAB.
>
> I'd suggest to consult with the legal department if the proposed
> requirement comply with Article 11 ( Freedom of assembly and association)
> of European Convention  on Human Rights:
>
> 1.  Everyone  has  the  right  to  freedom  of  peaceful  assembly  and to
> freedom of association with others, including the right to form and to join
> trade unions for the protection of his interests.
>
> 2.  No restrictions shall be placed  on the exercise of  these rights
> other than such as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic
> society in the interests  of national security  or public safety, for the
> prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals or
> for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. This Article shall
> not prevent the imposition of lawful restrictions  on the exercise of these
> rights by members  of the armed forces, of the police or of the
> administration of the State.
>
> Thanks,
> M.D.
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 00:37 Ben Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> This email starts discussion of whether ETSI auditors should be required
>> to be members of the Accredited Conformity Assessment Bodies' Council
>> (“ACAB’c” - https://www.acab-c.com/).
>>
>> This is Issue #219 <https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/219> for
>> the Mozilla Root Store Policy (MSRP), version 2.8, to be published in 2022.
>> (See https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/labels/2.8)
>>
>> Mozilla continually seeks to improve the quality of CA audits. Therefore,
>> we are considering a requirement that ETSI auditors be members of the
>> ACAB’c, for which there is no cost to join. The ACAB’c has improved the
>> consistency in how audit reports are provided to Mozilla, including how
>> auditor qualifications are verified. (ACAB’c seeks “to harmonise the
>> application of the conformity assessment requirements … with regard to the
>> broader conformity assessment community and in partnership with the main
>> stakeholders of the area, such as [the] CA/Browser Forum ….”  Members of
>> the ACAB’c further undertake to meet “the minimum report content for …
>> Browsers Manufacturers”.  (Code of Conduct, found at
>> https://www.acab-c.com/terms-conditions-and-policies/.) Not only has
>> ACAB’c maintained a Mozilla-compliant audit attestation letter template,
>> but it has also provided guidance about what auditors are supposed to
>> check, and it has taken other steps to keep audits current with Mozilla and
>> CA/Browser Forum requirements.
>>
>>
>> From an audit quality standpoint, membership in the ACAB'c is necessary
>> for any auditor using ETSI criteria to review CAs that issue publicly
>> trusted server certificates, and therefore, ACAB'c membership should be a
>> requirement stated in the MRSP.
>>
>>
>> Please provide your responses and comments in this thread.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Ben Wilson
>>
>> Mozilla Root Store Program
>>
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