FWIW, I don't like the approach of random revocations. I would prefer to focus 
on re-issuance and certificate rollover exercises by each CA, providing 
statistics of how subscribers perform, without any real disruptions. Instead of 
selecting certificates for revocation, select certificates for re-issuance and 
rollover in 5 days.

DZ.

Dec 23, 2024 13:30:45 Rich Salz <[email protected]>:

> Yes i know. The key point is to not DoS customers, so do what you have to 
> make sure they have certs before the revocation experiment.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2024, 1:32 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>> The CA cannot issue a replacement certificate if the Domain and/or Identity 
>> Validation reuse period has expired.
>> 
>> Some CAs even choose to request fresh domain validations at every issuance.
>> 
>> DZ.
>> 
>> Dec 19, 2024 22:24:31 Rich Salz <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>>> I think it would be advisable for a CA operator’s mass-revocation testing 
>>>> plan to include an immediate notice to all customers whose certificates 
>>>> were randomly selected because we would want to minimize disruption to 
>>>> server operations while testing the CA’s ability to revoke and replace 
>>>> certificates promptly.
>>>> 
>>> That's not quite the question I was asking.  I said "pre-notify". Imagine a 
>>> timeline like this:
>>>   N pick enough certs randomly. Generate replacement certs for those being 
>>> revoked.
>>>   N+1 notify those customers they will be revoked ("this is a test of the 
>>> emergency broadcasting system" as it were) and that you have replacement 
>>> certs
>>>   N + 1 + x Do the revocation
>>> 
>>> Would that be valid? If not, then as a reasonably large subscriber, I think 
>>> Akamai would expect to have a cert in the mass-revocation plan, and if we 
>>> have to respond at incident speed so that our customers are not impacted by 
>>> such a test, we would probably take that into consideration about which CAs 
>>> we use.
>>> 
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