Gervase Markham wrote: > The second half of your sentence contradicts the first. If the cost of > doing business is raised, it will deter. The higher the raise, the > greater the deterrent.
There is no way you can raise the bar high enough to outweigh the scams while still allowing existing businesses to be able to afford it as well, and that is the crux of the issue, and why phone spam and other social problems exist and will continue to exist until you can work out a way to allow businesses to exist, but make it > Have you actually read the draft? This is not a "fax in your letterhead" > system. *Sigh* as usual, missing the point, and just picking on one aspect of my points... > Don't "pet name tool bars etc" require education to use also? The level of education is minimal as they take the approach to make things intuitive that if you do X and Y occurs, there is a problem. Compared to existing education programmes by banks and the like that if X, Y, Z and some other factors exist, there may or may not be a problem. > A potential advantage of EV if all the browsers adopt it is that > browsers, CAs, financial and other secure sites and consumer advocacy > groups can have a single, simple consistent message for users. This > makes it more likely that they'll actually pay attention. *yawn* ho hum, this won't do anything for security, it will do something for Verisign's bank balance however, at least by those that buy into it, and it could be a pretty big uphill battle of getting buy in from small merchants and the like, although I'm sure they aren't Verisign's target market with all this. And yes I am picking on Verisign as they are the ones most vocal for this. Ian and others were pushing for UI changes for years to add CA branding, but of course he wasn't taken seriously... After all how do you really punish a CA if the end users don't know who or what you are doing... While you are pushing this particular variation of snake oil, and claiming if someone sees ebay drop from green to yellow, all panic will occur and a break down in society, it's been proven time and time again that users click through dialog boxes and they won't care if goes pink with purple polka dots. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://e164.org - Because e164.arpa is a tax on VoIP "In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip." _______________________________________________ dev-security mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security
