Your proposal sounds good to me.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Jim Gomes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Tim. That is a clear and compelling reason to keep them there.
>
> With that clarified, does anyone have any comments on the renaming of the
> pages to improve the indexing?
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Timothy Bish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 04/09/2015 02:13 PM, Jim Gomes wrote:
>> > Thanks for the explanation. That helps.
>> >
>> > So, I guess we could discuss the merits of keeping the Board Reports on
>> our
>> > wiki, as it does seem somewhat redundant. As long as they exist on the
>> > wiki, it would be helpful to have a better indexing system.
>> >
>> > Perhaps Hiram can offer background as to the purpose and intent of the
>> > Board Reports being published on the wiki?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jim Gomes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the link, Dan. I didn't know those were there. I think the
>> >> main
>> >>> difference here is that link is to the Board Minutes, whereas the
>> >> ActiveMQ
>> >>> wiki has the Board Report. They seem to be identical, but will they
>> >> always
>> >>> be?
>> >> Possibly not, but it would NORMALLY be because the board has decided
>> >> something should be private (like names of people being voted on or
>> >> something) in which case it should likely not have been in our public
>> >> version as well.   Doesn't happen too often.  Also, they would remove
>> any
>> >> "wiki formatting" type things that wouldn't look right in the text form
>> >> they use.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> And even if they are identical, do we still need to have the redundancy
>> >>> for trace-ability? For instance, if the Board, for whatever reason,
>> >> claims
>> >>> they didn't receive the report, we have documentation on the wiki
>> showing
>> >>> the Report was produced.
>> >> I don't really think the board would care if one was produced or not.
>> >>  It's the chair's job to make sure the board gets the report.  If they
>> >> don't get it, they ask the chair to report again next month.   If the
>> chair
>> >> consistently has issues, they'd likely replace the chair.    Another
>> thing
>> >> to keep in mind:  it's the Chairs job to create the report that reflects
>> >> the state of the community.  The chair MAY include the wider community
>> in
>> >> creating that report, but that's not a requirement.   Thus, saying "the
>> >> community produced one, the chair didn't submit it" really wouldn't
>> matter
>> >> at all.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> That's me just trying to understand the reason for the Board Report
>> >> page's
>> >>> existence.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Jim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> No "objection", but why don't we just delete the page and point at the
>> >>>> official records:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ActiveMQ.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dan
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Gomes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I recently went out to look at previous Board Reports (
>> >>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/apache-activemq-board-reports.html) and
>> >> found
>> >>>>> the current sorting method difficult to deal with. Unless we are
>> >> required
>> >>>>> to use the page naming format, I would like to change it to the
>> >> following
>> >>>>> format:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.01 January
>> >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.04 April
>> >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.07 July
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would then set it to sort in reverse order so the most recent
>> report
>> >> is
>> >>>>> automatically at the top, and they descend in chronological order.
>> The
>> >>>>> current sorting puts the most recent board report (2015/02) in the
>> >> middle
>> >>>>> of the pack, making it difficult to find. Good luck trying to find
>> the
>> >>>>> report directly prior to that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I will make the changes, unless anyone has other suggestions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best,
>> >>>>> Jim
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Daniel Kulp
>> >>>> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Kulp
>> >> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> I believe that he does this as a place to create and edit them and allow
>> for other members to contribute if they so desire before he submits
>> them.  I've edited a couple in the past prior to submission to add CMS
>> or NMS release notes.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Bish
>> Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc.
>> [email protected] | www.redhat.com
>> twitter: @tabish121
>> blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/
>>
>>



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