Thanks for the feedback, everyone. It looks like there's no technical
reason for the current naming scheme. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't
breaking some kind of formatting requirement from the Board.

I'll get them fixed up shortly.

Best,
Jim


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Gary Tully <[email protected]> wrote:

> renaming makes sense to me.
> On 9 Apr 2015 19:44, "Jim Gomes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Tim. That is a clear and compelling reason to keep them there.
> >
> > With that clarified, does anyone have any comments on the renaming of the
> > pages to improve the indexing?
> >
> > Best,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Timothy Bish <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/09/2015 02:13 PM, Jim Gomes wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the explanation. That helps.
> > > >
> > > > So, I guess we could discuss the merits of keeping the Board Reports
> on
> > > our
> > > > wiki, as it does seem somewhat redundant. As long as they exist on
> the
> > > > wiki, it would be helpful to have a better indexing system.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps Hiram can offer background as to the purpose and intent of
> the
> > > > Board Reports being published on the wiki?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jim Gomes <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for the link, Dan. I didn't know those were there. I think
> the
> > > >> main
> > > >>> difference here is that link is to the Board Minutes, whereas the
> > > >> ActiveMQ
> > > >>> wiki has the Board Report. They seem to be identical, but will they
> > > >> always
> > > >>> be?
> > > >> Possibly not, but it would NORMALLY be because the board has decided
> > > >> something should be private (like names of people being voted on or
> > > >> something) in which case it should likely not have been in our
> public
> > > >> version as well.   Doesn't happen too often.  Also, they would
> remove
> > > any
> > > >> "wiki formatting" type things that wouldn't look right in the text
> > form
> > > >> they use.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> And even if they are identical, do we still need to have the
> > redundancy
> > > >>> for trace-ability? For instance, if the Board, for whatever reason,
> > > >> claims
> > > >>> they didn't receive the report, we have documentation on the wiki
> > > showing
> > > >>> the Report was produced.
> > > >> I don't really think the board would care if one was produced or
> not.
> > > >>  It's the chair's job to make sure the board gets the report.  If
> they
> > > >> don't get it, they ask the chair to report again next month.   If
> the
> > > chair
> > > >> consistently has issues, they'd likely replace the chair.    Another
> > > thing
> > > >> to keep in mind:  it's the Chairs job to create the report that
> > reflects
> > > >> the state of the community.  The chair MAY include the wider
> community
> > > in
> > > >> creating that report, but that's not a requirement.   Thus, saying
> > "the
> > > >> community produced one, the chair didn't submit it" really wouldn't
> > > matter
> > > >> at all.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> That's me just trying to understand the reason for the Board Report
> > > >> page's
> > > >>> existence.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Jim
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> No "objection", but why don't we just delete the page and point at
> > the
> > > >>>> official records:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ActiveMQ.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dan
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Gomes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I recently went out to look at previous Board Reports (
> > > >>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/apache-activemq-board-reports.html)
> and
> > > >> found
> > > >>>>> the current sorting method difficult to deal with. Unless we are
> > > >> required
> > > >>>>> to use the page naming format, I would like to change it to the
> > > >> following
> > > >>>>> format:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.01 January
> > > >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.04 April
> > > >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.07 July
> > > >>>>> .
> > > >>>>> .
> > > >>>>> .
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I would then set it to sort in reverse order so the most recent
> > > report
> > > >> is
> > > >>>>> automatically at the top, and they descend in chronological
> order.
> > > The
> > > >>>>> current sorting puts the most recent board report (2015/02) in
> the
> > > >> middle
> > > >>>>> of the pack, making it difficult to find. Good luck trying to
> find
> > > the
> > > >>>>> report directly prior to that.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I will make the changes, unless anyone has other suggestions.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>> Jim
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Daniel Kulp
> > > >>>> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
> > > >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Daniel Kulp
> > > >> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
> > > >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > I believe that he does this as a place to create and edit them and
> allow
> > > for other members to contribute if they so desire before he submits
> > > them.  I've edited a couple in the past prior to submission to add CMS
> > > or NMS release notes.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Bish
> > > Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc.
> > > [email protected] | www.redhat.com
> > > twitter: @tabish121
> > > blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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