Hey Victor,

To clarify.  I'm expecting that a build of artemis results in the creation
(and publishing) of a docker container.  This container represents the
underlying build artifact.  This is known as the "latest" in docker.  When
doing a release, i expect something similar.

The ASF only does automatic docker builds.  Not manual.  Based on input I
got from our infra, its never a separate repo, always in the same repo.
Granted we don't have a ton of examples yet, but that seems to be the go-to
(and realistically represents a true CI/CD pattern for completely running
apps like this).

The actual creation of the container is a separate step in jenkins.  So
once the current dockerfile is donated, pointing to a different location
for the binary, I can carry out the steps w/ infra to setup the docker
builds.  There shouldn't be a reason to point to a remote location for the
binary as a result, it'll all be local to the workspace.  I'll probably
need to setup some kind of job to build releases, but shouldn't be a big
issue.

You can find a few examples out on our ASF hub page -
https://hub.docker.com/u/apache/.  Thrift is the most curious one from my
POV.  It actually builds thrift on the image, and uses an entry point to
allow extension (e.g. execution of thrift).

Also apologies, I missed that this fell off the dev list.

John

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 1:30 AM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> You mentioned building SNAPSHOTs and it sounds great to me. The problem is
> that one does not just curl the latest version of a SNAPSHOT. There are
> many rolling versions
> <https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/apache/activemq/apache-artemis/1.4.0-SNAPSHOT>
> .
>
> Also SNAPSHOTs would generate an interesting scenario when releasing
> versions, as the docker file for a snapshot would be different than the
> dockerfile of a RELEASE. Therefor, someone (I can do it if necessary) has
> to make sure the Dockerfile is updated accordingly by taking the dockerfile
> from the latest release version (or uncomment code perhaps). Therefor I'd
> discard the obvious workarounds (see below two examples):
>
>    - Curlling the maven metadata
>    
> <https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/apache/activemq/apache-artemis/1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml>
>    of the SNAPSHOT, and with xmlstarlet extract the latest version.
>    - Using the nexus api
>    
> <https://repository.apache.org/service/local/artifact/maven/redirect?r=snapshots&g=org.apache.activemq&a=apache-artemis&v=LATEST>
>    (although I haven been able to make it work, but just spent 10m). Tied to
>    an specific maven repo software. Unclear to me how to validate
>
> Even if we forget about the SNAPSHOTS, there has to be a clear release
> mechanism if the dockerfile lives inside of the main repo. Because it does
> download releases versions from an external site (not from the reactor) and
> validates against a manually given signature.
>
> The approaches I see are:
>
>    1. Non automatic dockerhub build. Build and upload to dockerhub using
>    a maven plugin. Would ease maintenance. Users of dockerhub prefer automatic
>    builds, but overall it would be great experience both for users and
>    developers. Would probably make
>    2.  Automatic dockerhub build that actually builds Artemis in
>    dockerhub (skipping tests). The image that is meant to be as small as
>    possible, it will likely have some leftovers, probably not to many if done
>    carefully. This is the same approach marmotta
>    <https://github.com/apache/marmotta/blob/develop/Dockerfile> uses.
>    3. Use a different repo just as it is right now and ignore SNAPSHOTS.
>    Proven to work and I'd say 99% of the dockerhub projects work like that.
>
> 3 is the current path but I'll discard it for one single reason: no other
> apache project seems to follow it.
>
> Personally I don't want to go through the 1 route, as it would require the
> apache dockerhub credentials to be store in the apache CI. And I'm sure
> someone, somewhere would have problems with that. Otherwise is a perfectly
> valid approach.
>
> So unless you have any other idea, I'd go for the option 2 as soon as I
> can.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2016-08-12 19:58 GMT-07:00 Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Apologies I have just arrived back from a travel. I'll put it together
>> this very weekend and I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> 2016-08-12 18:56 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hey Victor,
>>>
>>> Just wondering if you were able to get this together? Unfortunately, the
>>> ActiveMQ permissions don't let me assign to you.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:41 PM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice! Feel free to assign to me : "vromero".
>>>>
>>>> 2016-07-29 15:10 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Also, I created a ticket in JIRA for this:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-658
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:58 PM John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, that's a working example of how ASF does docker builds.
>>>>>> They setup an automated build per branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:37 PM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you! Excellent stuff, I'll take care of it. BTW yes I'm in
>>>>>>> dev@active.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only thing I don't fully comprehend is the thrift one. How does
>>>>>>> thrift applies here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-07-29 13:29 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I just dug around a bit on how we have docker setup.
>>>>>>>> Everything is an automated build, so we can have it build based on the 
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> in Artemis.  I would recommend as a first step to raise a PR to 
>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>> the dockerfile and entry point to the artemis repo.  I can setup a 
>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>> then in docker hub to build our master.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some minor changes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Instead of downloading from the mirrors, download the artifact
>>>>>>>> from the repository, this way we can do 1.4 snapshots in addition to 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> released binaries.
>>>>>>>> - You may want to base it on thrift,
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/thrift
>>>>>>>> - Make sure ASF license headers are present.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:06 PM John D. Ament <
>>>>>>>> john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Victor,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you already subscribed on dev@activemq?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Basically from what I understand, we do automated builds into the
>>>>>>>>> docker hub.  So we wouldn't directly bring in your image, but if you 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> the source code we can implement it as a partof our build.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you use to build your docker container?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 3:52 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Contributing to the Apache Docker Account
>>>>>>>>> To: Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>, <dev@activemq.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But yes I'll take care of it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2016 15:51, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe that's an infra question
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2016 15:47, "Bruce Snyder" <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well so far nobody has responded. So I have no idea who controls
>>>>>>>>>>> it. We need to find out who controls access to the ASF account at 
>>>>>>>>>>> Docker
>>>>>>>>>>> Hub.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any information would be highly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-07-13 15:43 GMT-07:00 Bruce Snyder <bsny...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John, can you help out Victor with his request to contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his image to the ASF account at Docker Hub? It looks like you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one to respond to Victor's request who has knowledge of the ASF 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Hub.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anyone else who can help Victor get his Docker image
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed so that it can be listed under the ASF account at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Hub?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Ted Husted <human-respo...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:52 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Contributing to the Apache Docker Account
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: bsny...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your inquiry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Artemis is a subproject of ActiveMQ, the best person to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact with this question is the ActiveMQ PMC Chair.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe Bruce Snyder is the current PMC Chair.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may also wish to refer to the project's Contributing page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * https://activemq.apache.org/contributing.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps, Ted Husted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member Emeritus, Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://www.apache.org/foundation/preFAQ.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://apache.org/foundation/faq.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Victor <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Apache,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Sep 27, 2015 I have  an Apache Artemis docker image on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docker hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://hub.docker.com/r/vromero/activemq-artemis/> (> 700
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installations, 1 pull request, 1 stackoverflow and no complains).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have already shared it with the Apache Artemis team and it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common agreement (between the few that replied the thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-dev/201604.mbox/%3CCAOqetn8FG_Yz+eqFXuE=oxd1hkjepbgolqy63eq3a22epun...@mail.gmail.com%3E>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if contributed it should be in the Apache docker user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although there seems to be no specific Apache contact related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Docker. That is why I'm writting you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm specifically looking for someone to ask for any specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the process and artifacts that might be required. I already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors agreement, I'm looking for things like special 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it to a given repo, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u35",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "\@0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)S;GED97)\`87!A8VAE+F]R9PH\`");'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>>>>>>>>>>>  );'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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