I'm sorry about the long delays in getting the official export from Confluence, but it took this long to get some resolution on the issue.
I now have a full HTML export from Confluence with the exception of the Navigation page. You can grab the zip file of the HTML at the following URL: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qoTC9KMw8oIzGWwBW1X-oDtZxt8mFZlX/view?usp=sharing Bruce On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > Bruce > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Michael André Pearce < > michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> It’s been a bit quiet on the front of this effort. >> >> I’d like to bump this a bit to get some feedback on the current examples, >> and try agree a plan going forwards and spread the work. >> >> I was speaking with Martyn the other week and we think maybe a brief >> webex to demo what’s been done so far and then discuss. >> Martyn’s offered he can host this using his bluejeans account (thanks) >> >> We are thinking of organising this for the week of 19th Feb. >> >> Any specific people who want to be involved can or cannot make? If not >> I’ll sync up with Martyn to agree and then post a time and date. >> >> Cheers >> Mike >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 20 Dec 2017, at 01:26, Michael André Pearce < >> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote: >> > >> > Just FYI have sent a PR with a link to my branch of this export now in >> a GitBook form still needs a lot of TLC but have tried to get a large bulk >> done. To provide some skeleton for 5.x documents. >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On 18 Dec 2017, at 20:26, Michael André Pearce < >> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Yeah, unfortunately the tool i found wanted just html it blew up when >> trying to use modified. >> >> >> >> Like wise there was a couple of pages it couldn’t convert due to a css >> file on import issue but this wasn’t that many. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On 18 Dec 2017, at 19:15, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Nice job, based on my spot check of a handful of files, it looks much >> >>> better. But we will still need to manually fix all the valid tables. >> >>> >> >>> Have you had a chance to look at the other branches that Dan Kulp >> provided? >> >>> >> >>> Bruce >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Michael André Pearce < >> >>> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I’ve had some luck auto generating MD files. >> >>>> >> >>>> Needs some cleanup which probably the worst can be bash scripted. >> >>>> >> >>>> Have sent a PR back to the activemq-web on github for others to see. >> >>>> >> >>>> Mike >> >>>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 14 Dec 2017, at 16:31, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, Dan. So far I only see the body.storage branch (the others >> should >> >>>>> propagate in time). But I see that it's already more comprehensive >> than >> >>>> the >> >>>>> HTML that I pushed because it contains all the directories. We >> should >> >>>>> probably wipe out the master branch and choose one of yours as the >> new >> >>>>> master branch. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Bruce >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I hacked the Confluence exporter a bit to grab the page content in >> >>>>>> different formats so we can see if one is easier to migrate or >> >>>> similar. I >> >>>>>> just pushed 3 new branches to this repo: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> body.only - this is basically the same HTML, but with all the >> “wrapper” >> >>>>>> stuff removed. Just the HTML of the body content. So no >> navigation >> >>>> or >> >>>>>> header/footer, etc… >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> body.storage - this is the raw storage format of the data from >> >>>>>> confluence. Things like code snippets are in storage format >> >>>>>> (<structured-macro name=“code” …>), etc. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> body.view - confluence has a “body.view” mode that is between the >> >>>>>> “storage” format and not really the exported HTML. The >> structured >> >>>>>> macros are expanded a bit (<script class=“brush: java”…), but not >> >>>> really in >> >>>>>> final HTML form either. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Anyway, if interested in converting content, one of the above >> might be a >> >>>>>> better starting point. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Dan >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> The HTML is available in the repo now. This HTML is just what I >> grabbed >> >>>>>>> from the public directory. Even if it's not comprehensive, it's >> good >> >>>>>> enough >> >>>>>>> for hacking around to figure out what we'd like to do. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> In the meantime, I'm still working with ASF Infra to figure out >> why the >> >>>>>>> Confluence export is failing. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Bruce >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Bruce Snyder < >> bruce.sny...@gmail.com >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Yep, that is correct, Dan: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I pushed my changes to the repo. Now they just need to propagate >> to >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>> Github web UI. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Bruce >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org >> > >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Isn’t the push address supposed to be: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Dan >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Bruce Snyder < >> bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the suggestion, but it looks like I do not have >> >>>>>>>>> permissions >> >>>>>>>>>> either. I will contact ASF Infra for assistance. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Bruce >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Martyn Taylor < >> mtay...@redhat.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 4:00 AM, Bruce Snyder < >> >>>>>> bruce.sny...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I had the following empty git repo created to hold the HTML >> from >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> current website: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-web >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I have a conundrum -- content cannot be pushed >> directly >> >>>> to >> >>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Github ASF repo. Content can only be added via pull request >> but >> >>>>>> Github >> >>>>>>>>>>> does >> >>>>>>>>>>>> not allow a pull request on an empty repo. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Bruce, have you tried pushing directly to the ASF repo. i.e. >> >>>> git:// >> >>>>>>>>>>> git.apache.org/activemq-web.git >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> This is the workflow we currently use, we push directly to >> the ASF >> >>>>>>>>> repo. >> >>>>>>>>>>> PRs are really only used for review and discussion. I tried >> to >> >>>> push >> >>>>>>>>>>> directly this morning but looks like I don't have write >> >>>> permissions. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to get the HTML into the repo? I guess I >> could >> >>>> ask >> >>>>>>>>> ASF >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Infra to push it. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Bruce Snyder < >> >>>>>> bruce.sny...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to address all the questions to me in this single >> >>>> reply. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My original suggestion was that we export the HTML from >> >>>> Confluence, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> convert to Markdown and put the Markdown and the images in >> a git >> >>>>>>>>> repo. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Markdown is much easier to edit than raw HTML, especially >> the >> >>>> HTML >> >>>>>>>>>>>> exported >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from Confluence (blech!). The idea was that we could use >> Jekyll + >> >>>>>>>>> SAAS >> >>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> craft a new website. In fact, Michael Andre Pearce produced >> a >> >>>>>> mockup >> >>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this using the Apache Metro website as an example (because >> it >> >>>>>> already >> >>>>>>>>>>>> makes >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> use of Jekyll + SAAS). It was enough to convince me that we >> >>>> should >> >>>>>>>>> take >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this path, so I started looking into doing a full, new >> export of >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to HTML. If you have not seen Michael's mockup, you >> should >> >>>>>>>>> really >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I manually grabbed the raw HTML that is automagically >> >>>> exported >> >>>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence and is hosting the current site that we see at >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org. I did some testing on it using >> >>>>>> text2html >> >>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the conversion it does is pretty awful and would require a >> lot of >> >>>>>>>>> hand >> >>>>>>>>>>>> work >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix it. So, we discussed the point that there are 1600+ >> pages >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>> HTML >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> manually edit. But I later realized that it was only about >> 950 >> >>>> HTML >> >>>>>>>>>>> pages >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (from what I can tell so far). >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, Dan Kulp found a Confluence HTML to raw HTML converter >> >>>> built >> >>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>> top >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of PanDoc. So, I have also been trying to export the HTML >> from >> >>>>>>>>>>> Confluence >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in order to try out the PanDoc converter (it works based on >> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> export function which is different from how the HTML is >> >>>>>> automagically >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> converted). Unfortunately, I am running into a >> >>>> NullPointerException >> >>>>>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence. ASF Infra is telling me that the NPE is due to >> the >> >>>>>> CDATA >> >>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> search function on the Navigation page and is suggesting >> that the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> solution >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is to remove the Navigation page. The problem with this >> >>>> suggestion >> >>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it would fundamentally remove all the navigation on the >> >>>> right-hand >> >>>>>>>>> side >> >>>>>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the site -- not what we want. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have also given some thought to the idea that removing the >> >>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>>> site >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will break all links to old site. This is something that >> cannot >> >>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked and must be prevented as we do not want to leave >> users >> >>>>>> who >> >>>>>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bookmarked a page high and dry. This is a fairly easy >> problem to >> >>>>>>>>> solve >> >>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using some mod_rewrite rules, the question is if ASF Infra >> is >> >>>>>> willing >> >>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> allow us to deploy such custom rules. This should be >> investigated >> >>>>>>>>> when >> >>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> get to that point, but we are not there yet. First, we need >> to >> >>>>>> decide >> >>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> best path forward based on what I have described above in >> the >> >>>>>>>>> preceding >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Martyn Taylor < >> >>>>>> mtay...@redhat.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking there would be a single css file for all the >> >>>> pages. >> >>>>>>>>>>> But >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen the files yet. Let's have a play around when >> Bruce >> >>>>>>>>> pushes >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> export. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017 5:30 pm, "Michael André Pearce" < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What’s 1600 pages between friends.... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree it will be easier to covert to md than to start >> doing >> >>>> css >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s all from a wiki anyhow so it’s can’t be that far off. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It be good to get some samples (eg 50 pages) if not all >> just to >> >>>>>> try >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see what it is like. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 17:04, Clebert Suconic < >> >>>>>>>>>>> clebert.suco...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exporting to MD and creating a gitbook seems like a big >> >>>> task, I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool we use will cause a bunch of styling/content >> issues. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least initially, how about we just create a nice >> landing >> >>>>>> page >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brings the ActiveMQ site and Artemis site together, and >> >>>>>>>>>>>> refresh/align >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing content with some CSS? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just looking for the minimal effort task. I >> thought that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converting these pages into a doc would be easier than >> >>>>>> converting >> >>>>>>>>>>>> them >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to another .css... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the conversion needed to be done anyways... I thought >> .md >> >>>>>> would >> >>>>>>>>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier and having a better final presentation. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9& >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print >> >>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\ >> >>>>>> "YC;VT*" >> >>>>>>>>> );' >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print >> >>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\ >> >>>> "YC;VT*" >> >>>>>>>>> );' >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp >> >>>>>>>>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog >> >>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9& >> >>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> perl -e 'print >> >>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\ >> "YC;VT*" >> >>>> );' >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Daniel Kulp >> >>>>>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog >> >>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> perl -e 'print >> >>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> );' >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> perl -e 'print >> >>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" >> );' >> >>> >> >>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ >> >>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> >> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder >> > > > > -- > perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9& > 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
