Yes, I understand. 

Hope my feedback is constructive.  If there are specifics on which feedback 
would by more helpful, please don’t hesitate to let me know. 

FYI - just saying the following in an attempt to clarify my point-of-view, not 
critizing...  the goals of this effort are vague for me. All I can think of is 
to “modernize” the site - whatever that really means. 

Art

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Bruce Snyder <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Did you read what I said in my email?
> 
>> Everyone should take a look at the gitbook that Mike put together. It's a
> great first example.
> 
> Nothing is complete. He is giving us an early preview.
> 
> Bruce
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Arthur Naseef <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I pulled down Michael's git repo and browsed it.  Here are my initial
>> impressions:
>> 
>> The Good
>> * The look-and-feel is a little cleaner than the existing site
>> * I see a lot of promise with this new layout.
>> 
>> The Bad
>> * While I believe it is expected at this point, I feel it needs to be said
>> -- a lot of formatting is lacking
>> * Over time, for ongoing users, I believe the technical reference pages
>> (e.g. the failover transport page) are most useful; the lack of formatting
>> there makes them hard to consume
>> * It is hard to find several pages - although I suspect not much harder
>> than the current site, except that google finds the pages quickly (e.g.
>> searching on "failover activemq" brings up this link right away - for me at
>> least - http://activemq.apache.org/failover-transport-reference.html)
>> 
>> So overall, I would say it currently looks like a good, early start at the
>> effort.  Nothing showing up that is an obvious concern to the effort.
>> 
>> With that said, it would greatly help to have a small representative set of
>> pages that get closer to a final state in order to respond to that.  For
>> example, once the failover transport reference is formatted, then it will
>> be easier to gauge how easy it is to find important information on that
>> page.
>> 
>> Art
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Martyn Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bruce, All
>>> 
>>> We organised a webex discussion on the dev list[1] where we discussed
>>> Michael's proposal and created a bunch of JIRA[2] that we think are
>> needed
>>> in order to move forward with the proposal.  Unfortunately only a handful
>>> of people attended.  There is concern that a lot of work will be put into
>>> building a new site based on Michael's proposal only for it to get -1 at
>>> the last minute.  For this reason, can I suggest that people take some
>> time
>>> to look into what has been done already by checking out the git repo as
>>> Bruce suggested, or we schedule another webex session where Michael can
>>> talk about his proposal.  We can then take a vote as to whether or not
>> this
>>> is an approach we want to move forward with and what the requirements are
>>> to go live.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> [1] http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Website-Discussion-
>>> td4737173.html
>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-6912
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:29 AM, Bruce Snyder <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Everyone should take a look at the gitbook that Mike put together.
>> It's a
>>>> great first example.
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-web/pull/3
>>>> 
>>>> Please take 10 minutes to clone the repo, switch to the branch, install
>>>> gitbook, run gitbook and peruse the docs.
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bruce Snyder <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sorry about the long delays in getting the official export from
>>>>> Confluence, but it took this long to get some resolution on the
>> issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I now have a full HTML export from Confluence with the exception of
>> the
>>>>> Navigation page. You can grab the zip file of the HTML at the
>> following
>>>> URL:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qoTC9KMw8oIzGWwBW1X-
>>>>> oDtZxt8mFZlX/view?usp=sharing
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Bruce Snyder <
>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Michael André Pearce <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It’s been a bit quiet on the front of this effort.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’d like to bump this a bit to get some feedback on the current
>>>>>>> examples, and try agree a plan going forwards and spread the work.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was speaking with Martyn the other week and we think maybe a
>> brief
>>>>>>> webex to demo what’s been done so far and then discuss.
>>>>>>> Martyn’s offered he can host this using his bluejeans account
>>> (thanks)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are thinking of organising this for the week of 19th Feb.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any specific people who want to be involved can or cannot make? If
>>> not
>>>>>>> I’ll sync up with Martyn to agree and then post a time and date.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 20 Dec 2017, at 01:26, Michael André Pearce <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just FYI have sent a PR with a link to my branch of this export
>> now
>>>> in
>>>>>>> a GitBook form still needs a lot of TLC but have tried to get a
>> large
>>>> bulk
>>>>>>> done. To provide some skeleton for 5.x documents.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Dec 2017, at 20:26, Michael André Pearce <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, unfortunately the tool i found wanted just html it blew up
>>>> when
>>>>>>> trying to use modified.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Like wise there was a couple of pages it couldn’t convert due
>> to a
>>>>>>> css file on import issue but this wasn’t that many.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Dec 2017, at 19:15, Bruce Snyder <[email protected]
>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nice job, based on my spot check of a handful of files, it
>> looks
>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> better. But we will still need to manually fix all the valid
>>>> tables.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Have you had a chance to look at the other branches that Dan
>> Kulp
>>>>>>> provided?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Michael André Pearce <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve had some luck auto generating MD files.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Needs some cleanup which probably the worst can be bash
>>> scripted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Have sent a PR back to the activemq-web on github for others
>> to
>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Dec 2017, at 16:31, Bruce Snyder <
>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Dan. So far I only see the body.storage branch (the
>>>> others
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> propagate in time). But I see that it's already more
>>>> comprehensive
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML that I pushed because it contains all the directories.
>> We
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably wipe out the master branch and choose one of yours
>> as
>>>> the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>> master branch.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Daniel Kulp <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hacked the Confluence exporter a bit to grab the page
>>> content
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different formats so we can see if one is easier to migrate
>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> similar.   I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just pushed 3 new branches to this repo:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> body.only - this is basically the same HTML, but with all
>> the
>>>>>>> “wrapper”
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff removed.   Just the HTML of the body content.   So no
>>>>>>> navigation
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> header/footer, etc…
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> body.storage - this is the raw storage format of the data
>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence.   Things like code snippets are in storage
>> format
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (<structured-macro name=“code” …>), etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> body.view - confluence has a “body.view” mode that is
>> between
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “storage” format and not really the exported HTML.     The
>>>>>>> structured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> macros are expanded a bit (<script class=“brush: java”…),
>> but
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> really in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> final HTML form either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, if interested in converting content, one of the
>> above
>>>>>>> might be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better starting point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Bruce Snyder <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML is available in the repo now. This HTML is just
>>> what I
>>>>>>> grabbed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the public directory. Even if it's not comprehensive,
>>> it's
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for hacking around to figure out what we'd like to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, I'm still working with ASF Infra to figure
>>> out
>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence export is failing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Bruce Snyder <
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, that is correct, Dan:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pushed my changes to the repo. Now they just need to
>>>>>>> propagate to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github web UI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Kulp <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the push address supposed to be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-web.git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Bruce Snyder <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the suggestion, but it looks like I do not
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. I will contact ASF Infra for assistance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Martyn Taylor <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 4:00 AM, Bruce Snyder <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the following empty git repo created to hold the
>>>> HTML
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current website:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I have a conundrum -- content cannot be
>> pushed
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github ASF repo. Content can only be added via pull
>>>> request
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not allow a pull request on an empty repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce, have you tried pushing directly to the ASF repo.
>>>> i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>> git://
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.apache.org/activemq-web.git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the workflow we currently use, we push directly
>>> to
>>>>>>> the ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PRs are really only used for review and discussion.  I
>>>> tried
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> push
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly this morning but looks like I don't have write
>>>>>>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to get the HTML into the repo? I
>> guess
>>> I
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infra to push it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Bruce Snyder <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to address all the questions to me in this
>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>> reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My original suggestion was that we export the HTML
>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convert to Markdown and put the Markdown and the
>> images
>>>> in
>>>>>>> a git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Markdown is much easier to edit than raw HTML,
>>> especially
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Confluence (blech!). The idea was that we could
>>> use
>>>>>>> Jekyll +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SAAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> craft a new website. In fact, Michael Andre Pearce
>>>>>>> produced a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mockup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this using the Apache Metro website as an example
>>>> (because
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of Jekyll + SAAS). It was enough to convince me
>>> that
>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this path, so I started looking into doing a full,
>> new
>>>>>>> export of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to HTML. If you have not seen Michael's mockup,
>>> you
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I manually grabbed the raw HTML that is
>>> automagically
>>>>>>>>>>> exported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence and is hosting the current site that we
>> see
>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org. I did some testing on it
>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text2html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the conversion it does is pretty awful and would
>>> require
>>>> a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fix it. So, we discussed the point that there are
>>>> 1600+
>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually edit. But I later realized that it was only
>>>> about
>>>>>>> 950
>>>>>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (from what I can tell so far).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, Dan Kulp found a Confluence HTML to raw HTML
>>>>>>> converter
>>>>>>>>>>> built
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of PanDoc. So, I have also been trying to export the
>>> HTML
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in order to try out the PanDoc converter (it works
>>> based
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> export function which is different from how the HTML
>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automagically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converted). Unfortunately, I am running into a
>>>>>>>>>>> NullPointerException
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confluence. ASF Infra is telling me that the NPE is
>> due
>>>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDATA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search function on the Navigation page and is
>>> suggesting
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to remove the Navigation page. The problem with
>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would fundamentally remove all the navigation on
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> right-hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the site -- not what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have also given some thought to the idea that
>>> removing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will break all links to old site. This is something
>>> that
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked and must be prevented as we do not want to
>>>>>>> leave users
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookmarked a page high and dry. This is a fairly easy
>>>>>>> problem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using some mod_rewrite rules, the question is if ASF
>>>> Infra
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow us to deploy such custom rules. This should be
>>>>>>> investigated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get to that point, but we are not there yet. First,
>> we
>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best path forward based on what I have described
>> above
>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preceding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Martyn Taylor <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking there would be a single css file for
>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen the files yet. Let's have a play around
>>>> when
>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> export.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017 5:30 pm, "Michael André Pearce" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What’s 1600 pages between friends....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree it will be easier to covert to md than to
>>> start
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>> css
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s all from a wiki anyhow so it’s can’t be that
>> far
>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It be good to get some samples (eg 50 pages) if not
>>> all
>>>>>>> just to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see what it is like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 17:04, Clebert Suconic <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exporting to MD and creating a gitbook seems
>> like a
>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>> task, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool we use will cause a bunch of styling/content
>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least initially, how about we just create a
>> nice
>>>>>>> landing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brings the ActiveMQ site and Artemis site
>> together,
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh/align
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing content with some CSS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just looking for the minimal effort task. I
>>>>>>> thought that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converting these pages into a doc would be easier
>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> converting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to another .css...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the conversion needed to be done anyways... I
>>>>>>> thought .md
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier and having a better final presentation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YC;VT*"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>>>>>>>>>>> "YC;VT*"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>>>>>>> "YC;VT*"
>>>>>>>>>>> );'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>>>> "YC;VT*"
>>>>>>> );'
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>>>>>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\
>>>> "YC;VT*"
>>>>>>> );'
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>>>>> 
>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> perl -e 'print
>>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> );'
>>>> 
>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> 
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