+1000. We had that options discussed here a few times. Having the old website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the migration.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> wrote: > Sounds good to me. > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> > Date: 22/10/2018 12:38 (GMT+00:00) To: dev@activemq.apache.org Subject: > Re: Website > How about an equivalent message on the home page of the new website, > directing users to the old site? > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Check out the Camel website and the message that they posted about their > > website changes that are underway: > > > > https://camel.apache.org/ > > > > Bruce > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a combination of JIRA issues > > > plus a > > > > list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere such as the > wiki. > > > > > > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around completely, I believe > we > > > > need to include the docs to support the older versions in some way. > So, > > > the > > > > first thought that came to mind is a search capability in order for > > users > > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also keep the old site > > intact > > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g., 5x.activemq.apache.org, > > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the advantage of a search > > feature > > > > is > > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just for older stuff. We > > > might > > > > even be able structure the search to allow users to select a version > of > > > the > > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just some thoughts. > > > > > > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site functional ASAP, but > > that > > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We should not abandon > users > > > of > > > > older versions. > > > > > > > +1 Bruce. > > > > > > I had thought that the export of the current site into the gitbook had > > all > > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces. I like the idea of > > keeping > > > the old site running and link to it from the new site. This ensures > > > existing users have all the info they need, but let's us move forward > > with > > > new content. Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home page for the > new > > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page ("Existing users > > looking > > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here."). If we are able to get > > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular page, we can use that > > info > > > to prioritise porting older content. > > > > > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how much effort > would > > be > > > involved, there is already a search feature in the gitbook document > > (linked > > > to on the project page). > > > > > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder content and add links to > > the > > > old sites from each project page (and the home page)? We could go live > > > with this? Then start working through the nice to haves/criticals. I > > > think once we're live and the code is available, the community will be > > more > > > inclined to report/fixing issues. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git repos. > > > > > > > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for what needs to > happen > > to > > > > > move to the new site? JIRA perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older content. Can you > > > > elaborate > > > > > on this. Also, there's the actual content for the pages, key > > features, > > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to these? I could take > > care > > > > of > > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more experience in NMS, > > CMS > > > > and > > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the project home pages? > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new site > running > > > > even > > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic < > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > How to delete one now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder < > > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic < > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New repo created: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to https://gitbox.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then... > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram < > > > > > > jbert...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository" option on > > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/. I clicked it and > logged > > > in, > > > > > but > > > > > > > > apparently > > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC chairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert Suconic < > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on creating a repo > at > > > > > apache? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something what to do.. but so > > far > > > > no > > > > > > > > response. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone here knows a > better > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > > handle > > > > > > > > > > > > > this.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at apache infra list, > > > asking > > > > > for > > > > > > > > guidance on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM Christopher > Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website discussion > > > > restarted. I > > > > > > > > think it > > > > > > > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get the new website > > live > > > > and > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such as what Artemis is, > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM Clebert Suconic > < > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09 PM Bruce Snyder < > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very helpful if you could > create > > a > > > > git > > > > > > repo > > > > > > > > for it > > > > > > > > > > > > and get > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58 AM Clebert > > Suconic > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I can do to expedie > this? > > or > > > > you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > taking > > > > > > > > > > > > care of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM > > > > > michael.andre.pearce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted because its using jekyll i > > > could > > > > > use > > > > > > > > github > > > > > > > > > > > > pages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you could host it on asf > > git, > > > > > have > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > github > > > > > > > > > > > > clone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and then use github > pages, > > > > simply > > > > > > > > asking infra > > > > > > > > > > > > to have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to the github pages. Not > > > sure > > > > if > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably easiest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message --------From: > > > Bruce > > > > > > > Snyder > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce.sny...@gmail.com> Date: 02/10/2018 > > > > 21:11 > > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00) > > > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: > > Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael! I like the look of > > this > > > > > site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly work to be done as > you > > > > > > mentioned, > > > > > > > > so I > > > > > > > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the current site 100% > > > just > > > > > > yet. I > > > > > > > > agree > > > > > > > > > > > > that it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect, but we need to > > provide > > > an > > > > > > easy > > > > > > > > way to > > > > > > > > > > > > find the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know exists via search > > > > > > functionality > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action should be to move the > > > source > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > an ASF > > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has access to it, allowing > > others > > > to > > > > > > > > contribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > This will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy straight from the git repo > > at > > > > some > > > > > > > > point, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently investigated how to > > > > deploy > > > > > a > > > > > > > > static > > > > > > > > > > > > website from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the sub-domain at the ASF? If > > not, > > > I > > > > > will > > > > > > > > dig into > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM > > > > > > michael.andre.pearce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.andre.pea...@me.com.invalid> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to get the ball rolling > > > again > > > > > on > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great progress made on the > initial > > > > code > > > > > > base > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > started a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a responsive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design based on bootstrap which > looks > > > > pretty > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > on both > > > > > > > > > > > > mobile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop, bringing us into 2018 ;). > All > > > the > > > > > > > > content was > > > > > > > > > > > > exported > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by Bruce already, and > now > > > > lives > > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5 project page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously still some work to > do > > > > but I > > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > > > send now to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback and hopefully get > > > some > > > > > > input > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > content for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each project. What > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do need to have happen to make this > > > live. > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > prefer not > > > > > > > > > > > > to spend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get this perfect, but if we > > > could > > > > > get > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > MVP for > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking, we can improve it > > > iteratively > > > > > over > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here your thoughts, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps:// > > > > > > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy > smartphone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > );' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ < > > > > > http://bruceblog.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: > http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > > > > > > );' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ < > > > http://bruceblog.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > > > > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > > > > > );' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > perl -e 'print > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > > );' > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > perl -e 'print > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > > > -- Clebert Suconic
