So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are bit raw 
unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it didnt work 
well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge and simply we 
applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added these to a dir in 
the website along with a color pallete varient) but not svgs. Martyn may have 
those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly where we put them. Ill also 
add up anything i can find from console time. We had some hex backgrounds 
martyn and i had too we mocked up which were nice. Everything is png though i 
have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell 
<[email protected]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To: 
[email protected] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where the 
original files went:https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I 
notice now I can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis 
in the text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin 
Bertram <[email protected]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector images 
exist from which the various> individual images were created, but I don't have 
those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I did change the 
Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to discern.>> I increased the 
size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to> begin with is that is 
what the footer text is like on the existing ActiveMQ> website (although it's 
even less legible since it blends in with the> background so much).>> Mike, do 
you have the original images for the new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored 
hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell 
<[email protected]>> wrote:>> > Thanks Justin, the main things look 
covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed> > to monitoring the live version, I was 
jsut mainly noting it for> > comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some 
other small policy + style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the 
logo images.> > - The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so 
that> > 'Apache' is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, 
even though the footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the 
images appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve 
their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at the 
bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom ASF logo 
text isnt that readable against the footer> > background colour.> >> > Robbie> 
>> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> >> > > I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. 
I> > > think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out 
please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I don't see a way to make whimsy test the 
staged version.> > >> > >> > > Justin> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM 
Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had 
a chance to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index page 
it looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various site 
policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > > >> > > > At 
least some of these are checked automatically:> > > > 
https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > > On Mon, 4 
Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> > [email protected]>> > > > 
wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?> > 
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram 
<[email protected]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added some content 
to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > > > website [1]. In 
general, I tried to highlight what was true for> > *both*> > > > > > brokers 
but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.> > > > I've got> > > 
> > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out> > > > 
first for> > > > > > review & discussion.> > > > > >> > > > > > In case anybody 
wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to 
be full of company logos for two reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have 
any concrete data on that.> > > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not 
we need permission to use> > > > another> > > > > > company's logo on our 
website and make claims about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > 
>> > > > > > Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1] 
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 
7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[email protected]> > >> > > > wrote:> > > 
> > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a 
hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 
Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could> > > > 
contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than 
later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 
2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[email protected]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 
Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> 
> > > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the> > 
US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > 
Martyn> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > 
> 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 
6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [email protected]>> > > > wrote:> > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's 
a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the 
static content and should> > have> > > > the> > > > > > > work> > > > > > > > > 
in progress hosted under a separately directory and a> > message on> > > > the> 
> > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers> > > 
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > 
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM 
Bruce Snyder <> > > > [email protected]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > 
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> > 
> > > > > > >> [email protected]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > >> > - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for 
review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM 
Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > 
> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a 
few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> > website 
somewhere with a link is the way to go for the> > > > migration.> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM 
michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> > [email protected]> 
wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > > 
> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my 
Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message 
--------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> > [email protected]> Date: 
22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > 
[email protected] Subject: Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about 
an equivalent message on the home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > 
> > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > 
> > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > 
> > >> [email protected]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> 
> >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that 
they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> > their> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, 
Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > [email protected]>> > > 
> > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On 
Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > 
[email protected]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a> 
> > > combination of> > > > > > > JIRA> > > > > > > > >> > issues> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is 
easily visible> > > > somewhere such> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > 
> > > > > >> > wiki.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
Seeing as how we are moving the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > 
I> > > > > > > > >> > believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include 
the docs to support the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > 
> > >> > way. So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
first thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > > > > 
order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > > > > > > >> 
> >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > > keep the> > 
> > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> > intact> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> 
> 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, 
etc. However, the> > > > advantage of a> > > > > > > > >> search> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > feature> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
that it would be useful across the site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > 
> >> > stuff. We> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
even be able structure the search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > 
> a> > > > > > > > >> > version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> 
> > > > > > > >> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> > > I agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > > > > 
> > > ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > > should 
not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > 
>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site> > into> > > > 
the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> > had> > > > > > > > >> > >> > 
all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  
I> > > > like the> > > > > > > > idea> > > > > > > > >> of> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > keeping> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it 
from the new> > > > site.  This> > > > > > > > >> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > > existing users have all the info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> 
> > > > > > > >> > forward> > > > > > > > >> > >> > with> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > 
> > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add 
a link to old website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> 
users> > > > > > > > >> > >> > looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the 
original ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > > 
able> > > > > > > > >> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > 
some stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can> > > > 
> > > > use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure> > 
how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > > >> > would> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search 
feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > > > >> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).> > > > > > > > >> 
> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing 
placeholder> > content> > > > and add> > > > > > > > >> links> > > > > > > > >> 
> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from 
each project page (and the home> > page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > 
> > > >> go> > > > > > > > >> > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  
Then start working through the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available,> > 
the> > > > > > > community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing 
issues.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 
2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [email protected]> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > 
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with> > the 
git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > 
> > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for> > > > what> > > > > > > 
needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > happen> > > > > > > > >> > >> > to> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search 
feature for older> > > > content.> > > > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > 
> > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  
Also, there's the actual content for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > 
> > > > > > >> > >> > features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... 
Perhaps we can all contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > 
> > > >> > take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more> 
> > > > > > experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 
5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home> > > > > > > > 
>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree 
with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the new> > > > > > > > site> 
> > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even> > > > > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively> > improve> > > > on 
it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 
12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 
[email protected]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 
at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > [email protected]>> > > 
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM 
Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > 
[email protected]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > 
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie 
Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to 
create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 
10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > 
<[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > > > 
> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > 
> Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [email protected]>> 
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git> > 
repository"> > > > > > > option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
> > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > 
> and> > > > > > > > >> > logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and> > PMC> > > 
> > > > chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > 
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > 
<> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > [email protected]>> > > > > > > 
> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for 
this:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > 
Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 
<[email protected]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no 
reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure> > on> > > > > > > 
creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > > > > > >> > >> > 
> > > apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I 
did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > > > > > > do..> > > > > > > > 
>> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > no> > > > 
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > know they are busy.. so if> > anyone> > > > here> > > > > > > > 
knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > > >> > better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > 
way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > 
handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....> > > > > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> 
> > > > > > > >> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
<[email protected]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a 
thread at> > > > apache> > > > > > > infra> > > > > > > > >> > list,> > > > > > 
> > >> > >> > > asking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > 
>> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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