I'm pretty sure we would need an official vote thread and that voting here
doesn't count.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Justin Bertram <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm also about to be traveling so +1 from me as well.  I'll be back Monday
> and can pick things up if nothing has progressed.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:07 AM <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Im about to be travelling. If this needs a vote here is my +1.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Get Outlook for Android
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 4:39 PM +0100, "Christopher Shannon" <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can we go ahead and get this site deployed?  Our current site is broken
> > because Confluence was updated and our deploy process is now broken with
> > SSL errors.  Also I don't think the credentials will work anymore as
> > confluence now uses LDAP.
> >
> > So instead of trying to figure out how to fix it maybe we can just push
> the
> > new site.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:02 AM Christopher Shannon <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think writing up a README with detailed instructions would be
> necessary
> > > if we want to deploy now.  Everyone with access needs to know the new
> way
> > > to update the site even if it is a manual process.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:17 AM Justin Bertram
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> As of now there are no detailed instructions on how to update the
> > website.
> > >> As I mentioned, the process is fairly tedious as it requires working
> > with
> > >> both a git and an svn repo. Basically the steps are:
> > >>
> > >>   1) check out the activemq-website Git repository (
> > >> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website/)
> > >>   2) check out the Apache Infra website SVN repo (
> > >>
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/activemq/content/
> )
> > >>   3) deploy Git website locally using jekyll
> > >>   4) make modifications to source content
> > >>   5) verify changes locally
> > >>   6) send PR to activemq-website GitHub project
> > >>   7) once PR is merged take "rendered" content from "target" directory
> > >> (where jekyll deployed it), copy it to your local SVN repo and commit
> it
> > >> so
> > >> it's available on the live website
> > >>
> > >> I can write up something more detailed and put it in the README.md in
> > the
> > >> git repo if we want to proceed with the manual process for now.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Justin
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:56 AM Christopher Shannon <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Do we have instructions yet so others can update the website? If so,
> > >> where
> > >> > are they? I wanted to give it a shot real quick locally to make sure
> > >> things
> > >> > are ok.  I would be +1 as long as I am able to make updates, etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also we probably need to start a formal vote on this if you want to
> > push
> > >> > it.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:11 PM
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > +1 i agree it be a great triple whammy to have new releases and
> new
> > >> > site...
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Get Outlook for Android
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:21 PM +0100, "Clebert Suconic" <
> > >> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > With ActiveMQ 5.15.9 + Artemis 2.7.0, it would be great to have
> the
> > >> > > website updated this week.. It would make it a great week!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I don't want to push it.. but it would be nice!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:29 AM Christopher Shannon
> > >> > >  wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yeah we can deploy now that's fine if people want.  My comment
> > >> wasn't
> > >> > so
> > >> > > > much even about automation but more about just having a way to
> > make
> > >> > > updates
> > >> > > > easily. If we can do that through git PRs then that works as
> long
> > as
> > >> > > there
> > >> > > > are clear instructions for people to follow for updating and
> > >> deploying
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > updates.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:38 AM Clebert Suconic
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Cant we deploy what we have now manually as rob said and then
> > >> figure
> > >> > > out
> > >> > > > > automation if neeeed?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I don’t see the neee to automate but that doesn’t need to be a
> > >> single
> > >> > > task.
> > >> > > > > If we want automation we can do that on a second time.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Robbie Gemmell
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I envisaged people would run the site 'build', and check in
> > the
> > >> > > > > > resulting output, e.g. as the Apex project Michael linked to
> > >> does.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Though perhaps a little work, it doesnt seem like a massive
> > >> burden
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > > run the site build. I'd expect it to be something folks
> should
> > >> do
> > >> > > when
> > >> > > > > > making updates to the site anyway, to check changes actually
> > >> work
> > >> > > > > > before committing them.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 19:45, Justin Bertram
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo.
> > >> Let me
> > >> > > know
> > >> > > > > > what
> > >> > > > > > > you think.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer
> > >> details.
> > >> > > It's
> > >> > > > > an
> > >> > > > > > > unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a
> bad
> > >> > look.
> > >> > > > > Here's
> > >> > > > > > > what I propose:
> > >> > > > > > >   * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links
> > under
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > "Apache"
> > >> > > > > > > navigation menu.
> > >> > > > > > >   * Make the PMC/committers link point to
> > >> > > > > > > https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the
> > >> website
> > >> > is
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > > > > > there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render
> > the
> > >> > HTML
> > >> > > from
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that
> > >> step
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > > going
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that
> we
> > >> could
> > >> > > check
> > >> > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be
> made
> > >> live
> > >> > > > > > > automatically.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Justin
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <
> > >> > > > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > About propagation of changes, what often happens with
> > sites
> > >> now
> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > > > that the website (or main) repository contains an
> > 'asf-site'
> > >> > > branch
> > >> > > > > > > > that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it
> > >> comprising
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site
> > >> source.
> > >> > > The
> > >> > > > > > > > repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are
> > >> > > committed,
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers
> > >> > automatically.
> > >> > > No
> > >> > > > > > > > build jobs etc needed.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Robbie
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I agree we need up-to-date information for
> > >> > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/.
> > Bruce,
> > >> > > where's
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > official data on who is a PMC member and who is a
> > >> committer?
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I fixed the CMS download issue.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > What are the details about the Slack channel? This is
> > the
> > >> > first
> > >> > > > > I've
> > >> > > > > > > > heard
> > >> > > > > > > > > of it.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the
> > >> ActiveMQ 5
> > >> > > > > project
> > >> > > > > > > > page
> > >> > > > > > > > > the background behind the image is the same color as
> the
> > >> "MQ"
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > therefore
> > >> > > > > > > > > it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make
> it
> > >> > > visible. It
> > >> > > > > > > > > wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole
> > thing,
> > >> > but I
> > >> > > > > > didn't
> > >> > > > > > > > > think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any
> > stranger
> > >> > > than it
> > >> > > > > > being
> > >> > > > > > > > a
> > >> > > > > > > > > different color in the first place.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how
> > modifications
> > >> > > from the
> > >> > > > > > > > > activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual
> > >> > website.
> > >> > > > > I've
> > >> > > > > > read
> > >> > > > > > > > > about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here,
> > >> but I
> > >> > > don't
> > >> > > > > > know
> > >> > > > > > > > > much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how
> > >> that's
> > >> > > > > supposed
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > > work?
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to
> get
> > as
> > >> > > much of
> > >> > > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > > right
> > >> > > > > > > > > as I could before I sent it.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Justin
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
> > >> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > A few bits we need to work on:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > I think we need to update this, it was extracted
> from
> > >> > current
> > >> > > > > site,
> > >> > > > > > > > but is
> > >> > > > > > > > > > out of date.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Seems we are missing cms download page
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > On the contact side, there is now a slack channel
> this
> > >> > > should be
> > >> > > > > > added,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added
> > >> later,
> > >> > > but
> > >> > > > > > just to
> > >> > > > > > > > note)
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop
> > >> shadow
> > >> > > has
> > >> > > > > been
> > >> > > > > > > > added
> > >> > > > > > > > > > to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks
> a
> > >> bit
> > >> > odd
> > >> > > > > just
> > >> > > > > > > > having
> > >> > > > > > > > > > MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it
> > >> all.
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> > >> > > > > Clebert Suconic
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