I actually don’t know how to test the website locally.  When I open the
index it does not render properly.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:17 AM Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Given the site is readily testable locally with its build tool, and
> how small+infrequent most updates to it are, I'd remove the branch
> personally. Seems likely to be stale most of the time, and its easily
> created again later if truly needed.
>
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 20:49, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > There was a PR updating the navbar. It was an include and touched a
> > lot of files.
> >
> > So I tested with the "staging" feature. and it works like a charm.
> >
> > https://activemq.staged.apache.org
> >
> >
> > Should I keep the branch staging for future reference if anyone ever
> > wants to do testing again?
> >
> > What you guys think?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:54 PM Clebert Suconic
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > There was also a branch from the early days when Michal and Martyn
> > > were working on the website called "michaelandrepearce-patch-1-1"
> > > which I rempved and made a copy on my fork.
> > >
> > > Now there's only one branch which is called master.
> > >
> > > We could now use the staging feature on future releases :)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:41 PM Clebert Suconic
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have removed it...
> > > >
> > > > (Just in case, I made a copy of it on my fork, just in case, which I
> > > > will remove it some day)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:40 PM Clebert Suconic
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually going to ask if we can remove it...
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe I have authorization to remove the asf-site myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:38 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great. I'd suggest deleting the asf-site branch now its unused,
> or
> > > > > > asking INFRA if it cant be removed, and closing the original
> infra
> > > > > > JIRA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 16:32, Clebert Suconic <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > everything is on master now!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just did one dumb change to make sure the update worked, and
> it
> > > > > > > did... everything is on master now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or, alternatively, instead of updating the contents of
> asf-site and
> > > > > > > > removing master, per the JIRA discussion we could change the
> site to
> > > > > > > > be published from master instead of asf-site ourselves by
> adding a
> > > > > > > > .asf.yaml file:
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19235
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:09, Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We can update the contents of the asf-site branch to suit
> our needs,
> > > > > > > > > the only requirement from infra is that the published
> content is in
> > > > > > > > > the content dir. The only thing we needed them to do would
> be change
> > > > > > > > > the default branch.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Daniel will be talking about the new abilities offered by
> the more
> > > > > > > > > recently added asf.yaml stuff which can do various other
> things and
> > > > > > > > > override the existing website publishing stuff:
> > > > > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/.asf.yaml+features+for+git+repositories
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We can certainly look to add more of the stuff like
> staging etc if
> > > > > > > > > folks wanted, but I'd say its seperate from this change,
> and I dont
> > > > > > > > > personally see a real need for it right now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Robbie
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 15:31, Clebert Suconic <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:37 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure I see a need for creating another branch
> or asking infra
> > > > > > > > > > > to assist in the update itself. We are effectively
> just adding the
> > > > > > > > > > > source and history to the asf-site branch, which is
> where the site
> > > > > > > > > > > bits have to go, byt overwriting it, which we can do.
> The only thing
> > > > > > > > > > > we should really need infra to do is change the
> default branch setting
> > > > > > > > > > > to asf-site after the update is done, and then master
> can be removed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We could certainly do that. I just wanted to make sure
> Infra would
> > > > > > > > > > have no issues with the change.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Daniel is talking about a yaml file I never heard about,
> even talking
> > > > > > > > > > about staging website (which could be useful as part of
> our release
> > > > > > > > > > processes).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm getting confused through the JIRA. and I need help :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 13:51, Clebert Suconic <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will do the right thing.  I will create a branch
> called future-master.
> > > > > > > > > > > > And ask infra to update everything.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will send a separate thread with a clear title.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:42 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A necessary change would be updating the readme to
> describe the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > updated build + publish process. I've raised a PR
> against your test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > branch with suggested changes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/clebertsuconic/activemq-website/pull/1/files
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robbie
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:33, Robbie Gemmell <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean move things over to the asf-site
> branch? Seems reasonable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to me. I'd start a separate thread though giving
> folks a heads up that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.g you will do it tomorrow/some-other-point
> unless discussed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise, so its clear when the change might
> happen and that lazy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consensus can be taken as only a few folks have
> commented on this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 18:02, Clebert Suconic <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we move it then ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:52 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you did is just what the exiting build
> script did, so that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be fine if it was previously. I tried with
> and without the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --incremental and it didnt make a difference
> here (wasn't much
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different time wise either). Strange that
> you saw this, and strange
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you now dont, but at least its working now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 22:07, Clebert Suconic
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not see the error again. I guess it
> was an effect of working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > late hours.. I messed something up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was playing with --incremental on jekyll
> perhaps that's what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > caused it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Playing with a single branch would make it
> a lot easier. It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bothers me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to keep moving between branches as my IDE
> gets crazy on indexing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (don't ask.. I prefer IDE than VIM... I
> use vim emulation on idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though ;) )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If more people could double check this is
> okay.. perhaps we can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replace asf-site by my test branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:09 PM Clebert
> Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I copied the folder from the branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out asf-siite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Move it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout the test branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moved it back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 7:31 AM Robbie
> Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I dont see that happen when I run the
> build, and hadnt actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> seen the 'typechange' file status
> before.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The
> content/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd is actually a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > symlink, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> some googling suggests the 'typechange'
> status mainly happens
> > > > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> such link is replaced with an actual
> file. If I do that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > deliberately,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I then see the same status you do. Some
> posts suggested it can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > happen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> with certain copy commands, that have
> dereferenced the link and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > copied
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the referenced files content. How did
> you initially populate the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 'content' dir your subsequent status is
> showing as being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > updated?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Running the build afresh, or copying
> prior build output?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Robbie
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 22:53, Clebert
> Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > I have a branch where I'm using a
> single branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> https://github.com/clebertsuconic/activemq-website/tree/test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > The only concern I have so far is
> that any time I build, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > get a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > change into a schema:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Changes not staged for commit:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   (use "git add <file>..." to update
> what will be committed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to
> discard changes in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directory)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > typechange:
> content/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Although I would consider that anyone
> would check stuff before
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 PM Justin
> Bertram <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > If it's simpler and documented that
> sounds like a win to me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Justin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM
> Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 16:47,
> Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:44 AM
> Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thats what we do at Qpid and
> what I've seen other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > projects do, I find it
> simpler overall.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Tl;DR:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I'm all +10000000 on this...
> what we need to change on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > infra.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Can we keep the history from
> master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > We wouldnt need to change much to
> get everything on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > dont think, and it seems like we
> can do so without infra:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just tried
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > on your last commit as a test and
> was able to force-push
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > branch in the website repo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > So basically it seems it needs
> something like: repopulate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > branch (or a test branch) with
> the master history locally,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simplify
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > the build script to only build
> and nothing else, fix up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .gitignore
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > file appropriately, build things,
> commit, and [force]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > push.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Assuming of course others agree
> that it is what should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > happen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Robbie
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
>
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