Or, alternatively, instead of updating the contents of asf-site and
removing master, per the JIRA discussion we could change the site to
be published from master instead of asf-site ourselves by adding a
.asf.yaml file:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19235

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:09, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We can update the contents of the asf-site branch to suit our needs,
> the only requirement from infra is that the published content is in
> the content dir. The only thing we needed them to do would be change
> the default branch.
>
> Daniel will be talking about the new abilities offered by the more
> recently added asf.yaml stuff which can do various other things and
> override the existing website publishing stuff:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/.asf.yaml+features+for+git+repositories
>
> We can certainly look to add more of the stuff like staging etc if
> folks wanted, but I'd say its seperate from this change, and I dont
> personally see a real need for it right now.
>
> Robbie
>
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 15:31, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:37 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I see a need for creating another branch or asking infra
> > > to assist in the update itself. We are effectively just adding the
> > > source and history to the asf-site branch, which is where the site
> > > bits have to go, byt overwriting it, which we can do. The only thing
> > > we should really need infra to do is change the default branch setting
> > > to asf-site after the update is done, and then master can be removed.
> >
> > We could certainly do that. I just wanted to make sure Infra would
> > have no issues with the change.
> >
> > Daniel is talking about a yaml file I never heard about, even talking
> > about staging website (which could be useful as part of our release
> > processes).
> >
> > I'm getting confused through the JIRA. and I need help :)
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 13:51, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will do the right thing.  I will create a branch called future-master.
> > > > And ask infra to update everything.
> > > >
> > > > I will send a separate thread with a clear title.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:42 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A necessary change would be updating the readme to describe the
> > > > > updated build + publish process. I've raised a PR against your test
> > > > > branch with suggested changes:
> > > > > https://github.com/clebertsuconic/activemq-website/pull/1/files
> > > > >
> > > > > Robbie
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:33, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you mean move things over to the asf-site branch? Seems 
> > > > > > reasonable
> > > > > > to me. I'd start a separate thread though giving folks a heads up 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > e.g you will do it tomorrow/some-other-point unless discussed
> > > > > > otherwise, so its clear when the change might happen and that lazy
> > > > > > consensus can be taken as only a few folks have commented on this
> > > > > > thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 18:02, Clebert Suconic 
> > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should we move it then ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:52 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What you did is just what the exiting build script did, so that
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > > be fine if it was previously. I tried with and without the
> > > > > > > > --incremental and it didnt make a difference here (wasn't much
> > > > > > > > different time wise either). Strange that you saw this, and 
> > > > > > > > strange
> > > > > > > > you now dont, but at least its working now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 22:07, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I did not see the error again. I guess it was an effect of 
> > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > late hours.. I messed something up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was playing with --incremental on jekyll perhaps that's what
> > > > > caused it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Playing with a single branch would make it a lot easier. It
> > > > > bothers me
> > > > > > > > > to keep moving between branches as my IDE gets crazy on 
> > > > > > > > > indexing
> > > > > files
> > > > > > > > > (don't ask.. I prefer IDE than VIM... I use vim emulation on 
> > > > > > > > > idea
> > > > > > > > > though ;) )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If more people could double check this is okay.. perhaps we 
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > replace asf-site by my test branch.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:09 PM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I copied the folder from the branch.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Check out asf-siite
> > > > > > > > > > Move it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Checkout the test branch
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Moved it back.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 7:31 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I dont see that happen when I run the build, and hadnt 
> > > > > > > > > >> actually
> > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > >> seen the 'typechange' file status before.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> The content/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd is actually a
> > > > > symlink, and
> > > > > > > > > >> some googling suggests the 'typechange' status mainly 
> > > > > > > > > >> happens
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > >> such link is replaced with an actual file. If I do that
> > > > > deliberately,
> > > > > > > > > >> I then see the same status you do. Some posts suggested it 
> > > > > > > > > >> can
> > > > > happen
> > > > > > > > > >> with certain copy commands, that have dereferenced the 
> > > > > > > > > >> link and
> > > > > copied
> > > > > > > > > >> the referenced files content. How did you initially 
> > > > > > > > > >> populate the
> > > > > > > > > >> 'content' dir your subsequent status is showing as being
> > > > > updated?
> > > > > > > > > >> Running the build afresh, or copying prior build output?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Robbie
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 22:53, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > I have a branch where I'm using a single branch:
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > https://github.com/clebertsuconic/activemq-website/tree/test
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > The only concern I have so far is that any time I build, 
> > > > > > > > > >> > I
> > > > > get a
> > > > > > > > > >> > change into a schema:
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Changes not staged for commit:
> > > > > > > > > >> >   (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be 
> > > > > > > > > >> > committed)
> > > > > > > > > >> >   (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in
> > > > > working
> > > > > > > > directory)
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > typechange: content/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Although I would consider that anyone would check stuff 
> > > > > > > > > >> > before
> > > > > > > > committing..
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 PM Justin Bertram <
> > > > > jbert...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > If it's simpler and documented that sounds like a win 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > to me.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > Justin
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 16:47, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thats what we do at Qpid and what I've seen other
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > projects do, I find it simpler overall.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Tl;DR:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I'm all +10000000 on this... what we need to 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > change on
> > > > > infra.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Can we keep the history from master
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > We wouldnt need to change much to get everything on 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > > branch I
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > dont think, and it seems like we can do so without 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > infra:
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > just tried
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > on your last commit as a test and was able to 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > force-push
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > branch in the website repo.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > So basically it seems it needs something like: 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > repopulate
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > branch (or a test branch) with the master history 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > locally,
> > > > > > > > simplify
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > the build script to only build and nothing else, fix 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > up
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > .gitignore
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > file appropriately, build things, commit, and [force]
> > > > > push.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Assuming of course others agree that it is what 
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > should
> > > > > happen?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Robbie
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > > > >> > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic

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