Clebert, do you have an alternative suggestion about how to distinguish
between the configured role and the running role?


Justin

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:19 AM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would Prefer avoiding  passive and active.
>
>
> TBH master and slave wouldn’t offend me as a robot could be considered a
> slave without being offensive.
>
> But if there is general consensus on the term I will leave my personal
> opinion to the side there.
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Dom, internally in Artemis the process of starting the broker is
> generally
> > called "activation". Therefore I typically use the terms "active" and
> > "passive" to describe the "running role" as you call it. It's not
> perfect,
> > but it covers most cases.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:58 AM Domenico Francesco Bruscino <
> > bruscin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would propose to replace `master/slave` with `leader/follower` or
> other
> > > terms different from `live/backup` in ActiveMQ Artemis to keep the HA
> > > configuration role of the broker separated from the HA running role of
> > the
> > > broker.
> > > For example, a broker instance with the `slave` HA configuration role
> > could
> > > acquire the `live` HA running role after a failover.
> > >
> > > Il giorno mar 14 lug 2020 alle ore 13:42 Jiri Daněk <jda...@redhat.com
> >
> > ha
> > > scritto:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:02 PM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Like I said, I think "worker" can fully replace "slave" in every
> > usage
> > > in
> > > > > activeMQ.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, "worker" does not capture the idea. In Artemis, slave is
> > > replicating
> > > > the data on the master and replaces the master in case the master
> dies.
> > > The
> > > > "worker" terminology is more suitable for a situation when the master
> > > > coordinates and all work is done on slaves.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at
> > > >
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/coding-style.html#naming,
> > > > I'd suggest one of
> > > >
> > > > ‘{primary,main} / {secondary,replica,subordinate}’ ‘leader /
> follower’
> > > >
> > > > I like the leader/follower, personally. I have a feeling I heard it
> > > > somewhere in the context of database replication.
> > > >
> > > > Live / backup sounds good as well, except that "live" brings a bit of
> > the
> > > > echo of the notorious Unix cruelty and violence (killing children,
> > > reaping
> > > > zombies).
> > > > --
> > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
> > > > Jiri Daněk
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --
> Clebert Suconic
>

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