JB,

Believe me I certainly appreciate the work you have done and all the
releases as of late. I know my email essentially singled you out (just
because you are the only one who has done 5.x releases recently) and was a
bit critical but my response was also just for anyone and includes all of
our projects like Artemis. I just think it's a good idea to have a plan to
make sure the process is finished in a timely manner before starting.

When I've done releases I have personally found that when starting the
release process it's just easiest if that same person completes everything
and just acts as the release manager for the whole process because others
don't know where things stand so it's a bit hard for them to help (unless
it's asked for). That's just my opinion of course and maybe other people
don't agree.  As you stated anyone can still help out and that is great if
they do of course.

Going forward we can always rotate who performs the releases so the work
isn't always put on one person (in this case you). Since we will have a
schedule it will probably be easier to get others to volunteer. I can
certainly help out and do some of them. Or we can coordinate and task
different people to do different parts of the process ahead of time if they
are willing to reduce the burden on one person.

Chris

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:21 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> I take the fault, no worries. I did the release, but I was swamped with
> bunch of things and not completed cleanly.
>
> I will fix that.
>
> I think I know well enough the Apache release process on different Apache
> projects (I can’t count the number of releases I did and still doing) to
> know that I did bad on the last ActiveMQ one.
> I would like to remind that it’s the first time I messed with the
> announcement, and I will fix that.
>
> So, sorry about that and, again I will fix that.
> If you wanna help, you are welcome.
>
> On Apache projects, when I see people having issue (time, personal, …), I
> propose my help. That’s the way it works IMHO.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 5 févr. 2021 à 17:12, Christopher Shannon <
> christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > With the discussion of trying to do quarterly releases and keep to a
> > schedule I am going to chime in here and bring up the fact that I think
> > that going forward as a project we need to do a much better job at
> > completing the release process. Recently it seems that most releases are
> > vastly delayed in having emails sent and the website updated, etc. I've
> > done a ton of releases for 5.x and I know it's a bit of extra work to do
> > things like update the site, CVE announcements, release announcements,
> etc
> > but it's all part of doing a release. The process doesn't end when the
> vote
> > ends and the artifacts are uploaded.
> >
> > Obviously doing a release is voluntary and no one is obligated to do one
> > (but it is appreciated of course). However, that being said, my opinion
> is
> > if someone chooses to take on the task of doing a release and be the
> > release manager for it they need to complete the entire process in a
> timely
> > manner and not let it drag on for days and weeks.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Let me check (I did it but maybe forgot to send ;)).
> >>
> >> I will fix that if it didn’t go.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> Le 5 févr. 2021 à 16:46, Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Did I miss the announcement going out?  Seems like it should have been
> >> done
> >>> by now but I don't see it, although website appears to but updated now.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:44 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Robbie,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was about to update website. Thanks for catching this !
> >>>>
> >>>> I will move forward on announcement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le 29 janv. 2021 à 14:38, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have just updated the website to change the download page to
> 5.16.1,
> >>>>> add the 5.16.1 release page (which notes the announced CVE Gary
> >>>>> already updated the site with), and fix the broken links for the
> >>>>> 5.16.0 page. The site should be updated before the prior release is
> >>>>> removed from mirrors, or it breaks the links.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I leave any further tweaks and announcements needed to you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 05:00, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry, I’m late about website update, announcement and CVE
> publication
> >>>> for ActiveMQ 5.16.1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will fix that asap (at least during the week end).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry about that,
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Tim Bish
> >>
> >>
>
>

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