OK, ack.

No more comment about that from my side.

I will keep your comments in mind.

Anyway, I will move forward on my actions and release cycle for the good of the 
project ;)

> Le 5 févr. 2021 à 18:52, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 16:21, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I take the fault, no worries. I did the release, but I was swamped with 
>> bunch of things and not completed cleanly.
>> 
> 
> In general I have no issue with that, things clearly come up.
> 
> Some things can be prioritised though, e.g completing the
> delayed/outstanding release process before starting and participating
> in new discussion about doing more frequent releases as happened.
> 
>> I will fix that.
>> 
>> I think I know well enough the Apache release process on different Apache 
>> projects (I can’t count the number of releases I did and still doing) to 
>> know that I did bad on the last ActiveMQ one.
>> I would like to remind that it’s the first time I messed with the 
>> announcement, and I will fix that.
> 
> I have actually raised this on multiple previous occasions, and there
> have been further occasions inbetween where I haven't.
> 
>> 
>> So, sorry about that and, again I will fix that.
>> If you wanna help, you are welcome.
> 
> I would agree with Chris that it is preferable or at least typical
> that one person completes the process, it's generally far simpler.
> That said folks can certainly agree with others to coordinate on
> things if needed though. Typically thats done beforehand, or at least
> in a timely fashion if unexpected things comes up.
> 
> If you dont arrange things with others and/or send mails indicating
> you are going to do it, people are generally not going to expect they
> are needed to assist with the relatively simple final tasks of the
> release, or wont do it to avoid stepping on the original persons toes.
> If you instead need help, ask for that rather than reassuing you are
> doing it, which likely only delays things further.
> 
> I did update the website for 5.16.1 despite this thread last week
> though, once I had realised it still wasnt on the site after a week
> but a CVE announcement relating to it had already been made since.
> With announcements especially though, its awkward to just step in and
> do it, as you ought to coordinate first that the original person isnt
> also doing it at the same time, and knows not to repeat it later etc,
> plus again you had repeated you were doing it, and so I just noted I
> was leaving that.
> 
>> 
>> On Apache projects, when I see people having issue (time, personal, …), I 
>> propose my help. That’s the way it works IMHO.
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>>> Le 5 févr. 2021 à 17:12, Christopher Shannon 
>>> <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> With the discussion of trying to do quarterly releases and keep to a
>>> schedule I am going to chime in here and bring up the fact that I think
>>> that going forward as a project we need to do a much better job at
>>> completing the release process. Recently it seems that most releases are
>>> vastly delayed in having emails sent and the website updated, etc. I've
>>> done a ton of releases for 5.x and I know it's a bit of extra work to do
>>> things like update the site, CVE announcements, release announcements, etc
>>> but it's all part of doing a release. The process doesn't end when the vote
>>> ends and the artifacts are uploaded.
>>> 
>>> Obviously doing a release is voluntary and no one is obligated to do one
>>> (but it is appreciated of course). However, that being said, my opinion is
>>> if someone chooses to take on the task of doing a release and be the
>>> release manager for it they need to complete the entire process in a timely
>>> manner and not let it drag on for days and weeks.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Let me check (I did it but maybe forgot to send ;)).
>>>> 
>>>> I will fix that if it didn’t go.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 5 févr. 2021 à 16:46, Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did I miss the announcement going out?  Seems like it should have been
>>>> done
>>>>> by now but I don't see it, although website appears to but updated now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:44 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Robbie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was about to update website. Thanks for catching this !
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will move forward on announcement.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 29 janv. 2021 à 14:38, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have just updated the website to change the download page to 5.16.1,
>>>>>>> add the 5.16.1 release page (which notes the announced CVE Gary
>>>>>>> already updated the site with), and fix the broken links for the
>>>>>>> 5.16.0 page. The site should be updated before the prior release is
>>>>>>> removed from mirrors, or it breaks the links.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I leave any further tweaks and announcements needed to you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 05:00, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I’m late about website update, announcement and CVE publication
>>>>>> for ActiveMQ 5.16.1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I will fix that asap (at least during the week end).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry about that,
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tim Bish
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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