I'm not clear on the versioning you're proposing. Are you saying that the
first release of this subproject would be ActiveMQ Leto 1.0?


Justin

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:46 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi Robbie,
>
> My point is about "classic". I understand the meaning but I think it’s not
> a good "tagging".
>
> I don’t want to focus on ActiveMQ 5.x, because it prevents us to use
> another versioning.
> Why not ActiveMQ 6.0 that would be a new major ActiveMQ release.
>
> To summarize:
> 1. ActiveMQ 5.x is too restrictive for versioning
> 2. Classic is not a good "naming/tagging".
>
> That’s why I’m proposing a new identified name. It means we would have:
>
> - Apache ActiveMQ Artemis
> - Apache ActiveMQ Leto
>
> IMHO, it’s two subprojects under the same "umbrella" (like we have Camel
> K, Camel Spring Boot, Camel Karaf, or Karaf runtime, Karaf Decanter, Karaf
> Cave, etc).
> Each subproject deserves a clear naming.
>
> About the website, you got my point: I would like to get all wiki based
> resources, update and clean it to push on a dedicated sub context of the
> website:
>
> http://activemq.apache.org/artemis <http://activemq.apache.org/artemis>
> http://activemq.apache.org/leto <http://activemq.apache.org/leto>
>
> Each with its own announcement, download, documentation resources.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 18 mars 2021 à 12:19, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > The 'classic' terminology on the homepage is used more as a
> > description rather than a name to me, speaking to its quality and
> > vintage and in some small straightforward way. ActiveMQ 5 is still the
> > way the broker is referenced on the site as a whole so far as I see,
> > rather than ActiveMQ Classic. Essentially everywhere besides the
> > subdir name being 'classic' in the URL for grouping some of the newest
> > component pages. I dont think 'Leto' is particularly more useful than
> > 'classic' as a description, and especially not an improvement for the
> > subdir in the URL at this point. It would be quite the opposite for me
> > personally, I think it would be a bad idea.
> >
> > Changing the subdir on the site from 'classic' to something else
> > simplistic and direct such as 5 or 5x or 5.x? Sure, I can see that.
> > Dropping the "Classic" description suffix from the central box on the
> > homepage, leaving only the ActiveMQ 5 titling? By all means. Leto? I
> > dont really see that being an improvement at this point at all.
> >
> > On your other proposal of cleaning up mess, presumably that means the
> > mass of old 5.x wiki-derived pages on the site in the root (done to
> > preserve URLs during the site changeover I believe, over
> > individual-page redirects) that are rarely ever touched, and moving
> > such content into the subdir? Sounds great.
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 08:30, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I would like to bring on the table the naming of Apache ActiveMQ.
> >>
> >> I think "Classic" is not a good name, and it doesn’t mean anything. I
> think it would make more sense to have a generic name.
> >>
> >> As we have Apache ActiveMQ Artemis, I would like to propose Apache
> ActiveMQ Leto.
> >>
> >> From a cultural standpoint ;), Artemis is the Greek goddess of the
> hunt, the wilderness, wild animals, the Moon, and chastity. Artemis is the
> daughter of Zeus and Leto, and the twin sister of Apollo.
> >> As "ActiveMQ Classic" is "older" than Artemis, I propose to rename as
> Apache ActiveMQ Leto.
> >>
> >> This name change won’t impact the code repository, it’s more for the
> website.
> >>
> >> Related to that proposal, I would like to propose also to create a
> dedicated space for Leto: http://activemq.apache.org/leto <
> http://activemq.apache.org/leto> with a complete cleanup of the mess we
> have today (documentation, download page, announcements, etc).
> >>
> >> Thoughts ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
>
>

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