*> "...It sounds to me that we are getting involved more in politics than computer science..."*
More and more these days, you hear things like "*successful software development is about _people_*". Last year when all this kind of thing first started kicking off, I originally had the same position as you, Hadrian Zbarcea. Last year if you would have asked me about repository name changes from "*master*" to "*main*" I would have said it was much ado about nothing. But then yesterday, while browsing for something specifically computer science related, I stumbled across your comment in this thread. Bruce Snyder's proposal, your reply to it, plus the recently announced changes all made me realize that changes like these are about _ *people_*. Not about politics. Ask yourself: Does ASF want _*people_* volunteering to their projects? Or do they want politicians volunteering? ---- On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 14:47 PM Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > It sounds to me that we are getting involved more in politics than computer > science. > > Be it as it may, it would be good to understand that every change we make > will incur a cost for many of our downstream users. Change their build > systems to use a different branch name, testing, qualifying. I would > encourage you to keep that in mind as well. > > Cheers, > Hadrian > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:57 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Given the racial charged nature of certain terms in today's world, I feel > > that action should be taken to change any such terms in all the ActiveMQ > > projects. Examples include 'master,' 'slave,' 'whitelist' and > 'blacklist'. > > > > It doesn't matter where these terms originated or how long they have been > > used in computer science. I have friends who feel that these terms are > > offensive and present a barrier to entry to some. So, I would prefer that > > they no longer be used anywhere in the ActiveMQ project. The simple fact > is > > that changing these terms will not change the functionality of the > > features. Furthermore, compared to many other prominent projects > throughout > > the open source community, ActiveMQ is late to the game on this point. > > > > So, I have created the following JIRA Issue to encapsulate this work. I > > have not assigned any components simply because this should span all > > sub-projects and documentation: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-7514 > > > > I have already begun work on this effort in a branch in my own fork of > the > > activemq repo. This is to facilitate an eventual pull request to the > > ActiveMQ project. Anyone who would like to join me in this effort please > > reply to this message. > > > > -- > > perl -e 'print > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' > > http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > > >
