+1 My proposal was/is 100% about people. Nothing more. Bruce
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:04 PM Cunningham <headde...@gmail.com> wrote: > *> "...It sounds to me that we are getting involved more in politics than > computer science..."* > > More and more these days, you hear things like "*successful software > development is about _people_*". > > Last year when all this kind of thing first started kicking off, I > originally had the same position as you, Hadrian Zbarcea. Last year if you > would have asked me about repository name changes from "*master*" to > "*main*" > I would have said it was much ado about nothing. But then yesterday, while > browsing for something specifically computer science related, I stumbled > across your comment in this thread. > > Bruce Snyder's proposal, your reply to it, plus the recently > announced changes all made me realize that changes like these are about _ > *people_*. Not about politics. > > Ask yourself: Does ASF want _*people_* volunteering to their projects? Or > do they want politicians volunteering? > > > ---- > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 14:47 PM Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > It sounds to me that we are getting involved more in politics than > computer > > science. > > > > Be it as it may, it would be good to understand that every change we make > > will incur a cost for many of our downstream users. Change their build > > systems to use a different branch name, testing, qualifying. I would > > encourage you to keep that in mind as well. > > > > Cheers, > > Hadrian > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:57 PM Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Given the racial charged nature of certain terms in today's world, I > feel > > > that action should be taken to change any such terms in all the > ActiveMQ > > > projects. Examples include 'master,' 'slave,' 'whitelist' and > > 'blacklist'. > > > > > > It doesn't matter where these terms originated or how long they have > been > > > used in computer science. I have friends who feel that these terms are > > > offensive and present a barrier to entry to some. So, I would prefer > that > > > they no longer be used anywhere in the ActiveMQ project. The simple > fact > > is > > > that changing these terms will not change the functionality of the > > > features. Furthermore, compared to many other prominent projects > > throughout > > > the open source community, ActiveMQ is late to the game on this point. > > > > > > So, I have created the following JIRA Issue to encapsulate this work. I > > > have not assigned any components simply because this should span all > > > sub-projects and documentation: > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-7514 > > > > > > I have already begun work on this effort in a branch in my own fork of > > the > > > activemq repo. This is to facilitate an eventual pull request to the > > > ActiveMQ project. Anyone who would like to join me in this effort > please > > > reply to this message. > > > > > > -- > > > perl -e 'print > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" > );' > > > http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > > > > > > -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
