+1 for  avtivemq-artemis-console-plugin but I think we should keep the
artifact name as it is now for consistency, i.e. artemis-plugin

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 16:29, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We should discuss the name then someone can create it via
> https://selfserve.apache.org
>
> It would be something of the form activemq-artemis-<foo> for
> consistency. Regarding <foo>, what is actually going in it, a console
> 'plugin' ?
>
> So perhaps activemq-artemis-console-plugin ?
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 07:46, Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Lets go with a separate repo then, @clebert or anyone, can you create me
> a
> > new repo or talk me thru how to do it. What shall we call this new
> > component/repo, considering we will still have an artemis-console module
> in
> > the artemis repo?
> >
> > Clebert, I will add this new fields in your PR to the new console as
> well.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 19:03, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think we have a consensus on a separate repo.
> > >
> > >
> > > @Andy:  me an Anton, we wre adding a field for internal queues in the
> admin
> > > console. If you could make sure we keep that on the new one please ?
> Or
> > > let us know how to adjust it?
> > >
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4856
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 for a separate repo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 3:56 AM Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Clebert, I think it will be weeks rather than days so I would just
> > > > release
> > > > > when you are ready.
> > > > >
> > > > > Robbie, I think for now a separate repo is my preferred solution,
> the
> > > > > console can actually be run outside of embedded artemis so
> development
> > > is
> > > > > easy. Can someone create a new repo?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 17:45, Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If it was a matter of 1 day to include it I would prefer to wait
> for
> > > > it.
> > > > > > Other than that then I’m releasing on Monday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:40 PM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd say the answer to 'Wait for <foo> to do a release?' is
> usually
> > > no
> > > > > > > unless its about a blocking bug/regression or there's really
> > > nothing
> > > > > > > else important ready to go. This definitely isnt that and also
> isnt
> > > > > > > ready yet while other stuff is, so seems a clear no to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 16:58, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should I wait for the 2.33 release ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > See my other thread about the heads up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or you think this may take a lot longer ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 7:27 AM Andy Taylor <
> > > > andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The current Artemis console is based on HawtIO 1 which
> itself
> > > is
> > > > > > > written
> > > > > > > > > using Bootstrap. Bootstrap is old and no longer maintained
> so
> > > > > HawtIO
> > > > > > > (v3/4)
> > > > > > > > > has moved to use React and Patternfly and is also written
> in
> > > > > > > Typescript.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have been working in the background over the last several
> > > > months
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > upgrade the console to hawtIO 4, this work can be found
> here
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> https://github.com/andytaylor/activemq-artemis/tree/artemis-console-ng
> > > > > >.
> > > > > > > > > This is still a WIP but is close to completion, I basically
> > > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > > finish
> > > > > > > > > off some branding, fix the console tests and implement an
> > > upgrade
> > > > > > > feature.
> > > > > > > > > A couple of things to note:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    - I have separated out the JMX tree and its tabs from
> the
> > > tabs
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > >    not related to the tree selection. I always found this
> a bit
> > > > > > > strange so
> > > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > >    there are 2 tabs Artemis and Artemis JMX, the latter
> uses
> > > the
> > > > > JMX
> > > > > > > tree
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >    before. It is possible however to do anything in the
> Artemis
> > > > tab
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >    can do in the JMX tab, view attributes and operations
> for
> > > > > > instance.
> > > > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > > >    is an issue currently where if there are thousands of
> > > address
> > > > or
> > > > > > > queues
> > > > > > > > >    then performance becomes an issue. this is because the
> whole
> > > > JMX
> > > > > > > tree is
> > > > > > > > >    loaded into memory and this can cause even the broker to
> > > fall
> > > > > > over.
> > > > > > > My
> > > > > > > > > plan
> > > > > > > > >    at some point is to allow disabling the JMX view and to
> lazy
> > > > > load
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > MBeans
> > > > > > > > >    as and when needed, this is a task for further down the
> road
> > > > > tho.
> > > > > > > > >    - The console is built using yarn and is incredibly
> slow to
> > > > > build,
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >    fact it takes longer than it takes to build the rest of
> > > > Artemis.
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > >    better to have the new console in its own repository,
> > > release
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > >    independently and just consume it in Artemis. This means
> > > some
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > >    for a release but once the console becomes stable it
> > > shouldn't
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > >    work. I will however let the community decide what is
> the
> > > best
> > > > > > > approach.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are still a few issues I know of, the Attributes tab
> > > seems
> > > > to
> > > > > > > delay
> > > > > > > > > loading and the broker topology diagram is incomplete but
> feel
> > > > free
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > suggest any improvements or buglets you come across on this
> > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > > Hopefully I can tie up the loose ends soon and raise a PR
> in
> > > the
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > distant future.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>

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