sounds good to me also.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 1:36 PM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seems good to me
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 17:35, Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > so I am open to names, how about artemis-console-plugin v1.0.0
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 17:24, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 on activemq-artemis-console-plugin
> > >
> > >
> > > As Robbie said, you will need different versions for it. I feel like
> > > it would be easier to use a different name... but I don't mind what
> > > you have to do. Whatever makes it easier to be implemented.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 1:10 PM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On the module name, if it stays the same then consideration would also
> > > > need to be given to the version. It would need to be higher than
> > > > before to keep using the same name, but using a broker version isnt
> > > > necessarily that obvious if we dont expect to release it on the same
> > > > schedule as the broker.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 16:46, Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 for  avtivemq-artemis-console-plugin but I think we should keep the
> > > > > artifact name as it is now for consistency, i.e. artemis-plugin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 16:29, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We should discuss the name then someone can create it via
> > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be something of the form activemq-artemis-<foo> for
> > > > > > consistency. Regarding <foo>, what is actually going in it, a 
> > > > > > console
> > > > > > 'plugin' ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So perhaps activemq-artemis-console-plugin ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 07:46, Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lets go with a separate repo then, @clebert or anyone, can you
> > > create me
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > new repo or talk me thru how to do it. What shall we call this new
> > > > > > > component/repo, considering we will still have an artemis-console
> > > module
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the artemis repo?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clebert, I will add this new fields in your PR to the new console
> > > as
> > > > > > well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 19:03, Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think we have a consensus on a separate repo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @Andy:  me an Anton, we wre adding a field for internal queues
> > > in the
> > > > > > admin
> > > > > > > > console. If you could make sure we keep that on the new one
> > > please ?
> > > > > > Or
> > > > > > > > let us know how to adjust it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4856
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram <
> > > jbert...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 for a separate repo
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 3:56 AM Andy Taylor <
> > > andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Clebert, I think it will be weeks rather than days so I
> > > would just
> > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > when you are ready.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Robbie, I think for now a separate repo is my preferred
> > > solution,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > console can actually be run outside of embedded artemis so
> > > > > > development
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > easy. Can someone create a new repo?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 17:45, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If it was a matter of 1 day to include it I would prefer
> > > to wait
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > Other than that then I’m releasing on Monday.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:40 PM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > > > > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd say the answer to 'Wait for <foo> to do a release?'
> > > is
> > > > > > usually
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > unless its about a blocking bug/regression or there's
> > > really
> > > > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > > > > > else important ready to go. This definitely isnt that
> > > and also
> > > > > > isnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > ready yet while other stuff is, so seems a clear no to
> > > me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 16:58, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I wait for the 2.33 release ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > See my other thread about the heads up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Or you think this may take a lot longer ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 7:27 AM Andy Taylor <
> > > > > > > > > andy.tayl...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current Artemis console is based on HawtIO 1
> > > which
> > > > > > itself
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > written
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > using Bootstrap. Bootstrap is old and no longer
> > > maintained
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > HawtIO
> > > > > > > > > > > > (v3/4)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has moved to use React and Patternfly and is also
> > > written
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Typescript.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been working in the background over the last
> > > several
> > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > upgrade the console to hawtIO 4, this work can be
> > > found
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/andytaylor/activemq-artemis/tree/artemis-console-ng
> > > > > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is still a WIP but is close to completion, I
> > > basically
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > finish
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > off some branding, fix the console tests and
> > > implement an
> > > > > > > > upgrade
> > > > > > > > > > > > feature.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of things to note:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - I have separated out the JMX tree and its tabs
> > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > tabs
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    not related to the tree selection. I always found
> > > this
> > > > > > a bit
> > > > > > > > > > > > strange so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    there are 2 tabs Artemis and Artemis JMX, the
> > > latter
> > > > > > uses
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > JMX
> > > > > > > > > > > > tree
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    before. It is possible however to do anything in
> > > the
> > > > > > Artemis
> > > > > > > > > tab
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    can do in the JMX tab, view attributes and
> > > operations
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > instance.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    is an issue currently where if there are
> > > thousands of
> > > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > queues
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    then performance becomes an issue. this is
> > > because the
> > > > > > whole
> > > > > > > > > JMX
> > > > > > > > > > > > tree is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    loaded into memory and this can cause even the
> > > broker to
> > > > > > > > fall
> > > > > > > > > > > over.
> > > > > > > > > > > > My
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    at some point is to allow disabling the JMX view
> > > and to
> > > > > > lazy
> > > > > > > > > > load
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > MBeans
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    as and when needed, this is a task for further
> > > down the
> > > > > > road
> > > > > > > > > > tho.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - The console is built using yarn and is
> > > incredibly
> > > > > > slow to
> > > > > > > > > > build,
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    fact it takes longer than it takes to build the
> > > rest of
> > > > > > > > > Artemis.
> > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    better to have the new console in its own
> > > repository,
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    independently and just consume it in Artemis.
> > > This means
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    for a release but once the console becomes stable
> > > it
> > > > > > > > shouldn't
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    work. I will however let the community decide
> > > what is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > > > > > > approach.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are still a few issues I know of, the
> > > Attributes tab
> > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > delay
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loading and the broker topology diagram is
> > > incomplete but
> > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest any improvements or buglets you come across
> > > on this
> > > > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully I can tie up the loose ends soon and raise
> > > a PR
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distant future.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> > >



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