Yep. Vote and switch :) On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:12 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org> wrote:
> Yes, vote and switch. > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Yeah, Superset is using GIthub Issues instead of Jira. > > > > This is probably the third or fourth time the Github/Jira subject has > been > > brought up, something just finally pushed me over the edge of "why are we > > bothering with this" today. > > It seems like we have fairly broad agreement this time. AIP worth, or > just > > a VOTE and switch over? > > -a > > On Mar 16 2020, at 2:02 pm, Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > +1 for Github issues. Github allows creating issue template (feature, > > bug, custom) so this should help. And I have a feeling that GH issues are > > indexed better than JIRA tickets. JIRA gives the possibility to interlink > > between ASF projects but I don't think is something important for us. > I've > > also spotted that Apache Superset is proposing SIP (Superset Improvement > > Proposals) on Github issues. T. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Kaxil > Naik > > wrote: > > +1 > > One other problem it would help us solve is *closing > > issues where the PR is > merged*. This is one of the pain-points for us, > > some of the JIRA issues are > open even though the PR is merged. > > With > > Github issues, if there is a PR solving an existing issue just adding > > > "fixes #20" would close that issue when PR is merged. > > Regards, > > Kaxil > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:04 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor wrote: > > > > > > Maybe we could have some clear guidelines on when the issues should be > > > > > created - only when there is a problem so > > meone wants to report and we have > > no code for it yet. > > > > Yes, > > exactly. If you want to submit a fix directly: great, open a PR; if > > > you > > want to report it but arent able/willing to submit a fix straight away: > > > > > create an issue. > > -a > > On Mar 16 2020, at 12:02 pm, Jarek Potiuk > > > > wrote: > > > I am all for it. We can easily rely just on PR# to uniquely > > identify > > commit rather than Github issue id - and remove the > > requirement to have an > > issue altogether? The issue can be added > > optionally but it should not be a > > requirement. I think PRs and Issues > > are pretty equivalent when you follow > > the "work" + "create" +" > submit" > > sequence - without the unnecessary hassle. > > You can assign > > milestones/projects/label the same way on both. We actually > > found > that > > even when we use them in some other projects - they become > > > unnecessary. > > I think eventually there should be a way to convert an issue > > into PR > > :). Even if we want to use Github Projects eventually, we ca > > n add > > PRs to projects similarly as issues. Maybe we could have some > > clear > > guidelines on when the issues should be created - only when > there > > is a > > problem someone wants to report and we have no code for it yet. > J. > > On Mon, > > Mar 16, 2020 at 12:46 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor wrote: > > I'm > > totally in favor > > of not using Jira, as they are serving hardly > > > any > > > purpose other than just a useless step before creating a PR. > > > However, > > I > don't think to make a GitHub issue mandatory is also a good > > step, > > as > eventually, it'll meet the same fate of being opened just before > > > > opening a > PR. > > > So IMO we can use Github issues for simple use, > which > > > > is to report some > bugs/questions by users, who are not necessarily > > > > > planning to create a PR > soon. > Yes, that was what I meant but I > wasn't > > > > clear; I was just using "Github > Issues" as a collective product > name, > > and > > not saying we need an issue for > every PR. > > -ash > > On Mar > 16 > > 2020, at > > 11:42 am, Sumi > > t Maheshwari > wrote: > > I'm totally in favor of not using > > Jira, as > > they are serving hardly any > purpose other than just a useless > > step > > before creating a PR. However, I > don't think to make a GitHub issue > > > > mandatory is also a good step, as > eventually, it'll meet the same fate > of > > > > being opened just before opening a > PR. So IMO we can use Github > > issues > > for simple use, which is to report some > > > bugs/questions > by > > users, who are not necessarily planning to create a > > PR > soon. Also, > if > > we go this route, then we can do the one time Jira > > cleanup > and port > > only valid issues in Github. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at > > 5:07 PM Ash > > > Berlin-Taylor wrote: > Yeah, Github issues are far from > > perfect, > it's > > > mainly just I feel we have > a lot of "busy-work" in our > > process that > > is no > longer really serving much > benefit to us as a > > community. > > > > > -a > On Mar > 16 2020, at 11:35 am, Bolke de Bruin wrote: > > > > > Honestly, > > I think both > suck. So I can go ei > > ther way > > > > > > On 16 > > March 2020 at 12:33:27, Ash > > Berlin-Taylor > > (a...@firemirror.com > (mailto: > > a > s...@firemirror.com)) wrote: > > > > > The subject pretty much says it all. > > > > > > We aren't using Jira > very > > well in most cases, and the requirement > > for > a > Jira ticket for a > > code change leads to people just creating new > > Jira > > tickets, > rather > > than searching to see if there already exists a > > ticket for > > that > > feature. > > > For example: > ht > > tps:// > > issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-6987 and > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-2824 (I'm not trying to > > > > > > > pick on anyone involved here, I just happened to notice this) > > > > > > > > > Additionally most of the committers follow a similar path of "work on > > > > > > > feature, open Jira ticket just before creating PR". > > > I am > > proposing we > > > migrate over to Github issues and drop the > > requirement > > to have a jira > > > ticket for PRs. > > > The one downside is we might > get > > people opening > > > > > issues for as an > "help, how do I do this" -- I think we can > > address that > > > by having an issue > template saying something like > "DO > > NOT OPEN AN ISSUE > > > ASKING FOR HELP - ask > on user > s@ or join > > slack". > > > The only > > other thing Jira currently gives us is > the > > ability mark tasks > for > > "backporting" -- I think we can replace > that > > > with Github Milestones. > > > Kaxil or I will happily update the scripts > we > > use > to build/check the > > status > of releases. > > > Thoughts? > > > > > The only > outstandi > > ng question is then what do we do about > migrating > > > the issue (do > we > > copy issues across to Github?). Perhaps it might > > be a good > opportunity > > > for a clean slate. > > > -ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk > > Polidea | Principal Software Engineer M: +48 > > 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > [image: Polidea] > > > > > > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
