users@ list has virtually no traffic/subscribers - most of the discussions
are on slack (but it's both devel and users). I am also in favour of moving
to Github Discussions. The only potential "problem" is that users might not
be on Github - but I think it's a small barrier.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:35 PM Ry Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why not users@ mailing list:
>
> * I personally don't currently subscribe to users@ because of email
> overload
> * I didn't subscribe to users@ for very long as a new users, because I
> felt
> that I could get better support elsewhere than from others on that list.
>
> Why not Slack:
>
> * I do visit Slack to try and help people out, because I can do it on my
> own time vs. getting content sent to my bloated inbox
> * Sending links to slack discussions is unwieldy (when asking others to
> join in)
> * It's not a great UX for user questions, as they may get scrolled off /
> easily ignored
> * Answers aren't indexed by Google
> * Answers eventually get deleted by 10k message limit (this would go away
> if Slack request goes through positively)
>
> So for these reasons, I'm in favor of closing users@ mailing list in favor
> of Github Discussions.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 7:02 AM Kaxil Naik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > *ASF Infra *has said the following:
> >
> > Note that github discussion are NOT to be used for anything other than
> user
> > help. As is the policy of the Foundation, all code-related discussions
> and
> > project management activities MUST be reflected to an ASF mailing list.
> >
> > What do you'll think now? I saw we keep slack as it is and accept that
> this
> > will replace  [email protected] list.
> >
> > If we have some interest I can start a VOTE.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:27 PM Kaxil Naik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I mean I wouldn't want to drop Slack, it is so convenient for quick
> > > conversations, especially between committers too. I think Slack can
> > > co-exist with Github Discussions (GD), GD just replaces
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 21:14 Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am all for moving especially looking at the roadmap:
> > >> https://github.com/github/roadmap/issues/104 (Q4 2020).
> > >>
> > >> The question is whether it will serve all the purposes that slack
> serves
> > >> now and whether we can just abandon slack in one go?
> > >>
> > >> J,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 7:30 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <[email protected]
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > We had a small chat about this on slack:
> > >> >
> https://apache-airflow.slack.com/archives/CCPRP7943/p1598111138037700
> > >> >
> > >> > I personally think that if our request for paid Slack is not
> accepted
> > >> > we should consider moving to Github Discussion. Even if we got paid
> > >> > plan, I would be in favor of migrating as we don't know how long it
> > >> > will be avaliabe for us.
> > >> >
> > >> > I saw a few projects using it already and I like keeping discussion
> > >> > close to code (all this features of linking and nice code
> snippets!).
> > >> > If we decide on migration then I would also suggest to consider
> using
> > >> > StackOverflow for handling troubleshooting.
> > >> >
> > >> > My only concern is that it's even more Github-locking. But I do not
> > >> > expect Github to request open-source projects to pay for anything.
> > >> >
> > >> > Tomek
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 7:18 PM Kaxil Naik <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I agree and I share the same concern. But I see it as a drop-in
> > >> > replacement
> > >> > > for the [email protected] list and is mostly similar to a
> > >> forum
> > >> > > which will be indexed by Search engine unlike Slack.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Also as we are on a free plan with Slack, we can't see history :(
> --
> > >> We
> > >> > > have asked Slack if they can upgrade us since they are also
> Airflow
> > >> > Users,
> > >> > > we will see what happens with that.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards,
> > >> > > Kaxil
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:14 PM Deng Xiaodong <
> [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > The only concern I can think of is it seems serving identical
> > >> purpose
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > what Slack is serving at this moment (correct me if I’m wrong
> > >> please).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Then attentions (especially from folks who nicely volunteer to
> > >> answer
> > >> > > > questions in community) would be distributed unnecessarily.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > XD
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > On 24 Aug 2020, at 7:06 PM, Kaxil Naik <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi all,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I know most of us might have already heard or read about
> Github
> > >> > > > Discussions
> > >> > > > > <
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.blog/2020-05-06-new-from-satellite-2020-github-codespaces-github-discussions-securing-code-in-private-repositories-and-more/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > .
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I noticed Apache Couchdb has been already using it:
> > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thought we could also it for the Airflow community.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > What do you all think? If most of us agree I will raise an
> Issue
> > >> with
> > >> > > > > Apache INFRA team to enable it for us.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > > Kaxil
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Jarek Potiuk
> > >> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
> > >>
> > >> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> > >> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>


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