Really hard to say now. But I did some - rather generic - calculations
https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator#id=abb18f23-0ea5-495e-a1fc-9cca1953096b
and is some 400 USD /month. But I think when we connect it with free tier
from GA, it could be half that I think.

J.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:10 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@apache.org>
wrote:

> What are the estimated yearly costs?
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:17 AM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, we can do it: *docker build --cpu-shares=100 --memory=1024m *
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Plus the "workflow_runs" (image building) for all PRs can also be done
>>> in the self-hosted workers. They are safe as they are using master scripts
>>> (the only potentially dangerous part in them is that someone could do some
>>> "mining" as "malicious" Docker image building step, This is the only part
>>> that comes from the PR for "workflow_run" but this would be isolated within
>>> the docker build process which I believe has rather limited resources or we
>>> can limit it additionally to single processor and limited memory.
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:12 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this part is easy:
>>>>
>>>> * First of all -  It is similar to GA - someone could have used all the
>>>> 180 workers of Apache by submitting PRs to various projects. So we just
>>>> need a limited worker queue. All those can run as workers in GKE and it
>>>> should be easy to manage (we could have auto-scaling GKE cluster with upper
>>>> limit)
>>>> * Secondly - we can - likely - continue using the GA public workers for
>>>> all incoming PRs and only use the self-hosted ones for master pushes. Or we
>>>> could also use them for PRs coming from maintainers.
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 5:52 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And a magic security sandbox :D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13 2020, at 4:51 pm, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Now we just need credits :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's ace, we should go ahead with self-hosted runners then.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 4:06 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Confirmed, we *can* do it - Arrow has done it already
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19875
>>>>>
>>>>> But lets have a think on how to not be a bot net :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13 2020, at 3:59 pm, Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've spoken to a few members of ASF Infra directly, and they are just
>>>>> confirming but they are okay with the idea of us adding self hosted 
>>>>> runners
>>>>> to our repo, and also okay that we can manage those nodes ourselves. 
>>>>> Should
>>>>> get final confirmation today.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to double check that we could use the credits before we get
>>>>> anyone to stump up the VMs/credits etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> -ash
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13 2020, at 2:16 pm, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is also a slight problem as mentioned in the build@ thread:
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r1708881f52adbdae722afb8fea16b23325b739b254b60890e72375e1%40%3Cbuilds.apache.org%3E
>>>>>  -
>>>>> managing hosting runners has to be done through infrastructure and they 
>>>>> are
>>>>> not really responsive recently (I have tickets waiting for weeks now).
>>>>>
>>>>> But as I've learned recently that we can manage our own secrets via
>>>>> API without INFRA (and completely legitimately according to GitHub
>>>>> documentation), maybe hosted runners will be also possible to self-manage 
>>>>> :D
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:22 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've thought about private/self-hosted runners, and I think long term
>>>>> that's the way to go to alievate our CI bottlenecks.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a bit of work we need to do around security of builds - as
>>>>> mentioned here
>>>>> https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/actions/hosting-your-own-runners/about-self-hosted-runners#self-hosted-runner-security-with-public-repositories
>>>>>
>>>>> > We recommend that you do not use self-hosted runners with public
>>>>> repositories.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Forks of your public repository can potentially run dangerous code
>>>>> on your self-hosted runner machine by creating a pull request that 
>>>>> executes
>>>>> the code in a workflow.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is not an issue with GitHub-hosted runners because each
>>>>> GitHub-hosted runner is always a clean isolated virtual machine, and it is
>>>>> destroyed at the end of the job execution.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we'd need to dos something similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> All for this and happy to help out once 2.0 is out (or at least once
>>>>> it starts to quieten down)
>>>>>
>>>>> -ash
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13 2020, at 1:12 pm, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Aizhamal, Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> We've had some problems recently with concurrency for Github Actions
>>>>> and suggested solution for now is to use self-hosted runners (This is
>>>>> suggested by GitHub Support)
>>>>>
>>>>> I made some comments in the issue here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/11496
>>>>>
>>>>> And also opened build@ discussion
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r1708881f52adbdae722afb8fea16b23325b739b254b60890e72375e1%40%3Cbuilds.apache.org%3E
>>>>>  and
>>>>> opened an accompanying ticket in JIRA:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-20978
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless from those discussions, It would be great if we come back
>>>>> to the idea of Google Donating some credits to Apache Airlfow to
>>>>> setup their own runners.
>>>>>
>>>>>  We have not used them last time when GitLab did not manage to
>>>>> implement the needed fork support (they have not implemented it till NOW
>>>>> for more than 1.5 year!) but with GitHub I am quite certain we can switch
>>>>> and start using such runners pretty much immediately if we had some
>>>>> credits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe some other companies could donate some credits to us ?
>>>>>
>>>>> J.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>>
>>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jarek Potiuk
>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>>
>>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jarek Potiuk
>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>>
>> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>
>>

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M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
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