One more comment. Since the start of that vote (3 days ago) I think I
have taken part in ~10 PRs (I think ~4 of them were mine) where
suddenly new pylint errors appeared like a rabbit from a magician hat.

Some quotes from contributors:

"@kaxil can you help me with this? Not able to get this error."

"Hey @mik-laj
CI on this PR is failing due to unrelated issues.
Have tagged you for review, if you like.
Otherwise I'm happy to wait with this one until the CI issues get
resolved, and retry it later. Have tried a few times though".

I think that clearly shows the overhead pylint creates in our process
- for both: contributors and committers.

J.




J.


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 4:30 PM .... <dzaku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 Most of the time I disabled it locally and only ran it on CI.
>
> czw., 24 cze 2021 o 20:20 Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org> napisaƂ(a):
> >
> > While I fully agree with all the points about pylint being slow and 
> > cumbersome I still keep my -0.5, which if I correctly understand is not 
> > blocking but is just expression of my opinion :D
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tomek
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 13:07, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to give an example of the problems we have to deal with re: false
> >> positives.
> >>
> >> I ALMOST had a working Python 3.9 change this morning. ALMOST because
> >> when I run it everything worked except about hundred new 'no-member'
> >> errors in a file that I have
> >> not touched (and it has no relation whatsoever with the changes I made).
> >>
> >> No new pylint was released. Just other, unrelated code was changed:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/potiuk/airflow/runs/2903575190?check_suite_focus=true#step:9:48
> >>
> >> This is something that recently started to occur almost daily - for
> >> various people. This is mightily annoying and causes even more delays
> >> and reruns of the builds (thus money) for really bogus reasons.
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:33 AM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > *23m23s on our more-powerfull self-hosted runners.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 24 2021 at 10:32:43 +0100, Ash Berlin-Taylor 
> >> > <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The biggest advantage to me: reducing test time on CI and pre-commit.
> >> >
> >> > Pylint is slow.
> >> >
> >> > Oh my god, I just checked and it's even slower than I realised
> >> >
> >> > 46m25s on Github Runners, 23m23s for the "pylint" job.
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/runs/2902755059?check_suite_focus=true
> >> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/runs/2900159473?check_suite_focus=true
> >> >
> >> > There is no way pylint is worth that much test time!
> >> >
> >> > -ash
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 24 2021 at 11:22:53 +0200, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Good point Ash - I think we could indeed (if we decide to disable 
> >> > pylint) do this very thing indeed - identify the "important" aspects and 
> >> > try to find a plugin in flake8 for it. With our codebase, I think it 
> >> > will be rather easy to find if it works well for us (and we could do it 
> >> > as part of the `pylint-disable` PR and iterate until we are happy). I 
> >> > think it would streamline the development of ours a bit. J. On Thu, Jun 
> >> > 24, 2021 at 11:12 AM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Some of the "missing" checks can be added by flake8 plugins -- now 
> >> > obviously the plugins don't always provide the "no-false-positives" 
> >> > guarantees https://github.com/PyCQA/flake8-bugbear is a good one, and is 
> >> > part of the PyCQA so is "blessed". There are many more possible ones we 
> >> > can look at on 
> >> > https://github.com/DmytroLitvinov/awesome-flake8-extensions, but I think 
> >> > we should keep the plugins small and only add specific plugins when we 
> >> > identify a need -- to keep flake8 running fast. -ash On Thu, Jun 24 2021 
> >> > at 10:59:58 +0200, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: Added counts 
> >> > to get better overview: grep -R '# pylint: disable' | sed 's/.*\(# 
> >> > pylint.*\)/\1/' | sort | uniq -c 1 Binary file 
> >> > .git/objects/pack/pack-b85cbf9c91a5ba2bc0e0f19ea9bcf9d8193c48d5.pack 
> >> > matches 3 # pylint: disable=abstract-method 18 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=assignment-from-no-return 22 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=attribute-defined-outside-init 195 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=broad-except 2 # pylint: disable=C0103 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=C0103, line-too-long 1 # pylint: disable=C0111 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=C0123 4 # pylint: disable=C0301 3 # pylint: disable=C0302 18 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=c-extension-no-member 7 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=c-extension-no-member, no-member 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=c-extension-no-member,no-member 19 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=comparison-with-callable 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=comparison-with-itself 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-enumerate 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-generator 46 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-with 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-with,attribute-defined-outside-init 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=cyclic-import 2 # pylint: disable=dangerous-default-value 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=E0012 1 # pylint: disable=E1101 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=E1102 3 # pylint: disable=E1111 8 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=expression-not-assigned 29 # pylint: disable=global-statement 1 
> >> > # pylint: disable=global-statement,global-variable-not-assigned 4 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=inconsistent-return-statements 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-bool-returned, bad-option-value 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-length-returned 123 # pylint: disable=invalid-name 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=invalid-name,missing-docstring 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-name, unused-argument 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-sequence-index 2 # pylint: disable=invalid-str-returned 
> >> > 2 # pylint: disable=len-as-condition 20 # pylint: disable=line-too-long 
> >> > 3 # pylint: disable=line-too-long # noqa 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=logging-not-lazy 4 # pylint: disable=lost-exception 26 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=maybe-no-member 21 # pylint: disable=missing-docstring 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=missing-docstring, redefined-outer-name 12 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=missing-function-docstring 6 # pylint: disable=missing-kwoa 4 # 
> >> > pylint: disable-msg=too-many-arguments 2 # pylint: disable=no-else-break 
> >> > 2 # pylint: disable=no-else-continue 741 # pylint: disable=no-member 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=no-member,invalid-name 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-member,line-too-long 1 # pylint: disable=no-member, 
> >> > maybe-no-member 3 # pylint: disable=no-member # noqa 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-method-argument 58 # pylint: disable=no-name-in-module 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=no-name-in-module,wrong-import-order 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=non-parent-init-called 6 # pylint: disable=no-self-argument 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=not-a-mapping 6 # pylint: disable=not-callable 222 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=no-value-for-parameter 6 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=pointless-statement 123 # pylint: disable=protected-access 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=protected-access,c-extension-no-member,no-member 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=protected-access,no-member 2 # pylint: disable=R0401 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=R0902,R0904 1 # pylint: disable=R0904, C0111 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=R0904, C0111, C0302 3 # pylint: disable=R0904, C0302 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=R0913, C0302 2 # pylint: disable=raising-format-tuple 14 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=redefined-builtin 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-builtin,unused-argument 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-builtin,unused-argument,too-many-arguments 14 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=redefined-outer-name 6 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,reimported 7 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,reimported,unused-import 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,unused-argument 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=reimported,unused-import,redefined-outer-name 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=self-assigning-variable 13 # pylint: disable=signature-differs 2 
> >> > # pylint: disable=signature-differs # noqa: D403 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=singleton-comparison 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-popen-preexec-fn 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-popen-preexec-fn,consider-using-with 5 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-run-check 7 # pylint: disable=super-init-not-called 2 
> >> > # pylint: disable=syntax-error 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-few-public-methods 17 # pylint: disable=too-many-ancestors 
> >> > 270 # pylint: disable=too-many-arguments 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,inconsistent-return-statements 6 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments, too-many-locals 26 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals,too-many-branches 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals, too-many-statements 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-boolean-expressions 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-branches 1 # pylint: disable=too-many-function-args 78 
> >> > # pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-instance-attributes, too-many-arguments 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-arguments,too-many-branches
> >> >  2 # pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-locals 2 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-public-methods 14 
> >> > # pylint: disable=too-many-lines 21 # pylint: disable=too-many-locals 6 
> >> > # pylint: disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments,invalid-name 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments, too-many-branches 4 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-locals,too-many-statements 71 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-nested-blocks 9 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-public-methods 18 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-return-statements 7 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-statements 5 # pylint: disable=undefined-variable 11 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=unexpected-keyword-arg 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=ungrouped-imports 4 # pylint: disable=unidiomatic-typecheck 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=unnecessary-lambda 18 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unsubscriptable-object 4 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unsupported-membership-test 1 # pylint: disable = 
> >> > unused-argument 188 # pylint: disable=unused-argument 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,invalid-name 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,line-too-long 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument # pragma: no cover 3 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,too-many-arguments,too-many-locals 2 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument, unused-variable 549 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-import 2 # pylint: disable=unused-import,line-too-long 2 
> >> > # pylint: disable=unused-import # noqa 2 # pylint: disable=unused-import 
> >> > # noqa: F401 4 # pylint: disable=unused-import # noqa: F401 8 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-variable 1 # pylint: disable=unused-variable # noqa 4 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=using-constant-test 1 # pylint: disable=W0104 6 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=W0106 1 # pylint: disable=W0108 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=W0143 2 # pylint: disable=W0201 20 # pylint: disable=W0212 1 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=W0612 4 # pylint: disable=W0703 1 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=wildcard-import 5 # pylint: disable=wrong-import-order 5 # 
> >> > pylint: disable=wrong-import-position On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:53 AM 
> >> > Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: It could be survivor bias, but at 
> >> > least in my memory pretty much every time I've seen something really 
> >> > serious, it's been also reported by flake8 (which on its own is a 
> >> > combination of pep8, pyflakes + circular complexity). Let me explain a 
> >> > bit more context that built up in my mind over the last few months which 
> >> > made me change my mind. I think for such a tool, it is important to have 
> >> > as few false-positives as possible. If you have a lot of 
> >> > false-positives, we are basically trading both - contributor's and 
> >> > reviewers time on analysing and explaining that "this is false positive" 
> >> > with the potential of introducing a mistake like a typo. As a reviewer, 
> >> > this is a recurring pattern recently that the contributor complains 
> >> > about a "new" problem reported in the code they did not touch and then 
> >> > the reviewer has to get engaged and explain, and iterate often resulting 
> >> > in having to rebase the PR (sometimes again and again). When I look at 
> >> > our code: grep -R '# pylint: disable' | wc -l 3370 find . -name '*.py' | 
> >> > wc -l 4924 We have > 3000 false positives in our code and almost 5000 
> >> > python files. Those false positives are time lost by both contributors 
> >> > and reviewers. Those are the places where contributor and reviewer 
> >> > jointly decided that it's not worth to fix the problem reported by 
> >> > pylunt. Is 3370/4920 a lot ? I think so. Yes it might mean we should 
> >> > disable some rules possibly. But when I look at those rules to disable, 
> >> > those are the very ones that we would like to be able to discover. The 
> >> > list of those unique disables at the end of the mail. If you look at the 
> >> > pyflakes (which is one of the three tools in flake8) -> "Pyflakes makes 
> >> > a simple promise: it will never complain about style, and it will try 
> >> > very, very hard to never emit false positives." . I think it delivers. 
> >> > Pylint makes no such promise (and delivers as well). J. #### Currently 
> >> > disabled pylint rules: grep -R '# pylint: disable' | sed 's/.*\(# 
> >> > pylint.*\)/\1/' | sort | uniq # pylint: disable=abstract-method # 
> >> > pylint: disable=assignment-from-no-return # pylint: 
> >> > disable=attribute-defined-outside-init # pylint: disable=broad-except # 
> >> > pylint: disable=C0103 # pylint: disable=C0103, line-too-long # pylint: 
> >> > disable=C0111 # pylint: disable=C0123 # pylint: disable=C0301 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=C0302 # pylint: disable=c-extension-no-member # pylint: 
> >> > disable=c-extension-no-member, no-member # pylint: 
> >> > disable=c-extension-no-member,no-member # pylint: 
> >> > disable=comparison-with-callable # pylint: 
> >> > disable=comparison-with-itself # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-enumerate # pylint: 
> >> > disable=consider-using-generator # pylint: disable=consider-using-with # 
> >> > pylint: disable=consider-using-with,attribute-defined-outside-init # 
> >> > pylint: disable=cyclic-import # pylint: disable=dangerous-default-value 
> >> > # pylint: disable=E0012 # pylint: disable=E1101 # pylint: disable=E1102 
> >> > # pylint: disable=E1111 # pylint: disable=expression-not-assigned # 
> >> > pylint: disable=global-statement # pylint: 
> >> > disable=global-statement,global-variable-not-assigned # pylint: 
> >> > disable=inconsistent-return-statements # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-bool-returned, bad-option-value # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-length-returned # pylint: disable=invalid-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-name,missing-docstring # pylint: disable=invalid-name, 
> >> > unused-argument # pylint: disable=invalid-sequence-index # pylint: 
> >> > disable=invalid-str-returned # pylint: disable=len-as-condition # 
> >> > pylint: disable=line-too-long # pylint: disable=line-too-long # noqa # 
> >> > pylint: disable=logging-not-lazy # pylint: disable=lost-exception # 
> >> > pylint: disable=maybe-no-member # pylint: disable=missing-docstring # 
> >> > pylint: disable=missing-docstring, redefined-outer-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=missing-function-docstring # pylint: disable=missing-kwoa # 
> >> > pylint: disable-msg=too-many-arguments # pylint: disable=no-else-break # 
> >> > pylint: disable=no-else-continue # pylint: disable=no-member # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-member,invalid-name # pylint: disable=no-member,line-too-long 
> >> > # pylint: disable=no-member, maybe-no-member # pylint: disable=no-member 
> >> > # noqa # pylint: disable=no-method-argument # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-name-in-module # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-name-in-module,wrong-import-order # pylint: 
> >> > disable=non-parent-init-called # pylint: disable=no-self-argument # 
> >> > pylint: disable=not-a-mapping # pylint: disable=not-callable # pylint: 
> >> > disable=no-value-for-parameter # pylint: disable=pointless-statement # 
> >> > pylint: disable=protected-access # pylint: 
> >> > disable=protected-access,c-extension-no-member,no-member # pylint: 
> >> > disable=protected-access,no-member # pylint: disable=R0401 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=R0902,R0904 # pylint: disable=R0904, C0111 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=R0904, C0111, C0302 # pylint: disable=R0904, C0302 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=R0913, C0302 # pylint: disable=raising-format-tuple # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-builtin # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-builtin,unused-argument # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-builtin,unused-argument,too-many-arguments # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,reimported # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,reimported,unused-import # pylint: 
> >> > disable=redefined-outer-name,unused-argument # pylint: 
> >> > disable=reimported,unused-import,redefined-outer-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=self-assigning-variable # pylint: disable=signature-differs # 
> >> > pylint: disable=signature-differs # noqa: D403 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=singleton-comparison # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-popen-preexec-fn # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-popen-preexec-fn,consider-using-with # pylint: 
> >> > disable=subprocess-run-check # pylint: disable=super-init-not-called # 
> >> > pylint: disable=syntax-error # pylint: disable=too-few-public-methods # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-ancestors # pylint: disable=too-many-arguments 
> >> > # pylint: disable=too-many-arguments,inconsistent-return-statements # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-arguments, too-many-locals # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals,too-many-branches # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-arguments,too-many-locals, too-many-statements # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-boolean-expressions # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-branches # pylint: disable=too-many-function-args # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-instance-attributes, too-many-arguments # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-arguments,too-many-branches
> >> >  # pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-locals # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-instance-attributes,too-many-public-methods # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-lines # pylint: disable=too-many-locals # 
> >> > pylint: disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments,invalid-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-locals,too-many-arguments, too-many-branches # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-locals,too-many-statements # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-nested-blocks # pylint: disable=too-many-public-methods 
> >> > # pylint: disable=too-many-return-statements # pylint: 
> >> > disable=too-many-statements # pylint: disable=undefined-variable # 
> >> > pylint: disable=unexpected-keyword-arg # pylint: 
> >> > disable=ungrouped-imports # pylint: disable=unidiomatic-typecheck # 
> >> > pylint: disable=unnecessary-lambda # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unsubscriptable-object # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unsupported-membership-test # pylint: disable = unused-argument 
> >> > # pylint: disable=unused-argument # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,invalid-name # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,line-too-long # pylint: disable=unused-argument 
> >> > # pragma: no cover # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument,too-many-arguments,too-many-locals # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-argument, unused-variable # pylint: disable=unused-import 
> >> > # pylint: disable=unused-import,line-too-long # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-import # noqa # pylint: disable=unused-import # noqa: 
> >> > F401 # pylint: disable=unused-import # noqa: F401 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=unused-variable # pylint: disable=unused-variable # noqa # 
> >> > pylint: disable=using-constant-test # pylint: disable=W0104 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=W0106 # pylint: disable=W0108 # pylint: disable=W0143 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=W0201 # pylint: disable=W0212 # pylint: disable=W0612 # pylint: 
> >> > disable=W0703 # pylint: disable=wildcard-import # pylint: 
> >> > disable=wrong-import-order # pylint: disable=wrong-import-position On 
> >> > Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:57 AM Tomasz Urbaszek <turbas...@apache.org> 
> >> > wrote: > > -0.5 from me. Black and flake8 does not guarantee the same 
> >> > quality and consistency of code as pylint (for example using if list 
> >> > instead of if len(list) > 0 ). > > > I can't remember the last time 
> >> > where pylint prevented any real error > > Well, isn't it a survivor bias 
> >> > (the one usually represented by this picture of airplane)? > > Pylint is 
> >> > slow and sometimes brittle but I think it may help. What I would 
> >> > consider is to keep pylint for providers - this code in particular is 
> >> > created and changed by plenty of people with different backgrounds and 
> >> > standards. > > Tomek > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 21:45, Jarek Potiuk 
> >> > <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >> >> Just to be precise - the vote will end 
> >> > on Monday 28th at 8.30 PM CEST >> (to account for weekend) ... >> >> J. 
> >> > >> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:29 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> 
> >> > wrote: >> > >> > +1 -- Pylint is proving to be a headache and is very 
> >> > very slow locally this days >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 8:02 PM 
> >> > Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Why not +10000 Ash :) 
> >> > ? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:00 PM Andrew Godwin >> >> 
> >> > <andrew.god...@astronomer.io.invalid> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I can't 
> >> > cast a binding vote on this, but I would also like to chime in with 
> >> > support for this move. We have plenty of protection from everything 
> >> > else, and while we could try to go through pylint and disable every 
> >> > superfluous check, I'm not sure it's worth it. >> >> > >> >> > Andrew >> 
> >> > >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 12:49 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor 
> >> > <a...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Clearly I'm +7000 on this. >> 
> >> > >> >> >> >> >> On 23 June 2021 19:38:13 BST, Xinbin Huang 
> >> > <bin.huan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I would like to 
> >> > deprecate it too, so count +1 from me. One question I have is: do we 
> >> > have any ways to detect and prevent cyclic imports? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 
> >> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: 
> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I think this subject has been raised a few times 
> >> > (last time by Ash). >> >> >>>> Finally I grew up to embrace it as well. 
> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I think I am also fed-up by random pylint errors. 
> >> > Last time >> >> >>>> 
> >> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/15634/checks?check_run_id=2896761068
> >> >  >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> We have many, many pylint exceptions all over our 
> >> > code. I can't >> >> >>>> remember the last time where pylint prevented 
> >> > any real error. As Ash >> >> >>>> (rightfully) mentioned in latest 
> >> > discussion on slack - we have >> >> >>>> mypy/flake/isort/black which 
> >> > report (and fix) vast majority of things >> >> >>>> pylint reports. >> 
> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I think this last error was the final drop for me. >> 
> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Should we remove pylint ? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 
> >> > Consider it +1 from my side. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> J . >> >> >>>> >> >> 
> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> +48 660 796 129 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- 
> >> > >> >> +48 660 796 129 >> >> >> >> -- >> +48 660 796 129 -- +48 660 796 
> >> > 129 -- +48 660 796 129
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > +48 660 796 129
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> +48 660 796 129



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