> One less worry I hope is that aiobotocore is actually starting to relax
its botocore requirements bringing it much closer to latest release:
https://github.com/aio-libs/aiobotocore/pull/1037

Oh yes absolutely. Great timing. And our constraints ***JUST*** caught up
automatically with aiobotocore 2.7.0 - released just 2 days ago.

We've been waiting for it for a long time and I believe the MWAA team had
some impact there (we've beenit  discussing it a lot).

And yes that will Hopefully change my +1 on AIP-58 to +1!  But only when
s3fs relax THEIR requirement of aiobotocore ~2.5.4 they currently have.
Currently just using s3fs will bring our botocore and aiobotocore in
constraints 2.5 months back.

< boto3==1.28.64
< botocore==1.31.64 -> released 16 Oct 2023
---
> boto3==1.28.17
> botocore==1.31.17 -> released 1 Aug 2023

And it seems like everyone was waiting for it :
https://github.com/fsspec/s3fs/pull/809- the s3fs change for it was merged
yesterday.

So yes +1! I hope the s3fs release will happen before we merge AIP-58.

J.



On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 8:44 PM Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for thorough consideration Jarek. I follow your concerns. The idea
> behind this AIP
> was to reduce the cognitive load on users by staying as much pythonic as we
> can and to be gentle
> with the Airflow-isms. So I hope to limit that "yet another abstraction". I
> do agree that having great
> examples and documentation are going to be important. As a random idea,
> this https://medium.com/@fninsiima/de-mini-series-part-two-57770ff7cdf9 ,
> can now be significantly
> simplified.
>
> One less worry I hope is that aiobotocore is actually starting to relax its
> botocore requirements
> bringing it much closer to latest release:
> https://github.com/aio-libs/aiobotocore/pull/1037
>
> On the requirements side there are actually not that many additional
> dependencies being brought in.
> Core fsspec does not bring any requirements. s3fs brings in three which are
> all covered by current ones.
> adlfs brings in five, all already part of our current set. Of course it
> does bring some complexity, but I do
> hope you see that it is fairly limited and if it does bring in anything it
> is well supported.
>
> The reason for creating common.io as a provider was that it was suggested
> that we might want to
> move a bit faster than core on the very simple (yet powerful ;-) )
> FileTransferOperator.
>
> Considering this I hope you would like to make your measly +1 into a strong
> +1 :-).
>
> Cheers
> Bolke
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 19:48, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Finally caught up with this one, looked through code and discussions. I
> am
> > a little torn on that one but I did some more research and I think it's a
> > useful abstraction.
> >
> > +1(binding)
> >
> > The big + of using fsspec is that it is already supported by the most
> > important "consumers" that are likely to be used in Airflow. Pandas,
> > Pyarrow, Iceberg. The fact that you will be able to take an S3/GCS
> > ObjectStoragePath as an input directly and it will transparently use the
> > connection of Airflow is a big plus.
> >
> > I would just add that we should get real-life DAG examples on how this
> > might simplify code of their DAGs, it's cool. I think the quality and
> > clarity of the documentation that will come with it - clearly explaining
> > some cases and examples on how DAG authors can make use of it to make
> their
> > DAG authoring "better" - is a key to success of this one. If we fail to
> > explain it, it might become yet another rarely used feature of Airflow
> >
> > There is one worry I have - it adds "yet another abstraction" to learn
> and
> > "yet another set of dependencies" to Airflow.  We have a new "common.io"
> > provider, we have many new dependencies, we have aiobotocore as a
> > requirement for AWS integration for example. I already looked at the PR
> and
> > attempted to help with some of the dependency questions and problems. but
> > we will have a few more of those to solve and some decisions to mke
> should
> > apache-airflow-provider-common-io be default? Should it be included in
> the
> > reference image? etc. etc. This will make Airflow and its dependencies
> more
> > complex than simpler. That's why I am not strong +1! just measly +1 -
> > because I see how it can make airflow even "heavier" than it is now.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 4:34 PM Igor Kholopov
> <ikholo...@google.com.invalid
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for incorporating the feedback!
> > >
> > > +1 (non-binding)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 1:55 PM Dennis Akpenyi <
> dennisakpe...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 12:24 PM Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Community,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to start a vote for "AIP-58 Add Airflow ObjectStore".
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find the AIP here:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=263430565
> > > > >
> > > > > Implementing PR (most of the discussion happened here):
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/34729
> > > > >
> > > > > Discussion Thread (not much has happened here :-) ):
> > > > > Note: the title has changed from its original.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/l3fkr0h6j2g4tlmsov14fywmj58t3mtp
> > > > >
> > > > > This is my binding +1m the vote will last until 12:00 UTC on 26th
> > > > October,
> > > > > and until at least 3 binding votes have been cast.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please vote accordingly:
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ] + 1 approve
> > > > > [ ] + 0 no opinion
> > > > > [ ] - 1 disapprove with the reason
> > > > >
> > > > > Only votes from PMC members and committers are binding, but other
> > > members
> > > > > of the community are encouraged to check the AIP and vote with
> > > > > "(non-binding)".
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Bolke
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bolke de Bruin
> > > > > bdbr...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> --
> Bolke de Bruin
> bdbr...@gmail.com
>

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