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On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 6:56 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I have updated our meeting notes document to summarize the discussion
> from our 27th
> June dev call for Airflow 3.0.
>
> Link:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/8ApeEg#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-27June2024
>
> To all those who attended, can you please double-check and add if
> I have missed anything?
>
> To all those who didn't join, if you disagree with anything in the Summary,
> please voice your opinion.
>
> I will send a separate email for the agenda for the next meeting on
> 11th July.
>
> Regards,
> Kaxil
>
> ------
>
> Including the Summary here too (might break formatting):
>
> Catch-up on action items from last call
>
>    - Kaxil Naik updated the AIP template
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/templates2/viewpagetemplate.action?entityId=90210323&key=AIRFLOW
> >
> to
>    include the "Migration effort" section. If the template is used to
> create a
>    new AIP doc (click "Create" → "Airflow Improvement Proposal" on the
> wiki)
>    it should pre-populate sections. The access to editing the template
> itself
>    is limited to PMC members & ASF Confluence Admin group. Need to
>    retroactively add that section in existing AIPs planned for 3.0
>    [image: Screenshot of How to create a page using template]
>    - SLA PR <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/36639>: This is still
>    pending review.
>    - Marked AIP-51
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-51+Removing+Executor+Coupling+from+Core+Airflow?src=contextnavpagetreemode
> >
> as
>    completed, and the pending UI issue
>    <https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/27933> will be covered in the
>    UI refactor.
>    - AIP-61: Niko Oliveira is still targeting 2.10 for completion. PRs are
>    raised & pending reviews: #40472 (Backfill part)
>    <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40472> & #40017 (Scheduler
> part)
>    <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40017>.
>
>
>
> Discuss: Workstreams & workstream owners (Airflow 3 Workstreams
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Workstreams
> >)
>
> Updates on the *existing AIPs for the 3.0* list
>
>    - AIP-66 (DAG Versioning—Execution side): Jedidiah Cunningham will have
>    the draft by the next dev call.
>    - AIP-72 (Task Execution SDK) : No updates this week. Ash
>    Berlin-Taylor aims to have the VOTE open for it by the next dev call.
>    - AIP-38 (UI Modernization): Brent is focussing on Airflow 2.10
>    deliverables; post that, he will focus on replacing this AIP with a new
>    Umbrella AIP. There was a consensus on the call that we should split
> this
>    AIP into multiple AIPs (with an Umbrella AIP) as below:
>
>    - React'ifying the UI & changing the UX required for a modern Webserver
>       - FAB removal: The removal of Flask Appbuilder will have backend
>       implications such as changes needed to Authentication (currently, it
> is
>       done via FAB Auth backends
>       <https://flask-appbuilder.readthedocs.io/en/latest/security.html>.),
>       changes to the Plugin interface, custom API endpoints etc.
>       - New Features like DAG Folders/DAG Groups
>
>       - AIP-57 Refactor SLA Feature: The initial AIP was created with 2.x
>    in mind, so it should be revised. Some things might be easier with 3.0,
> as
>    we can make breaking changes. One of the contention points last time was
>    around whether the SLA duration time should start from DAG/task start or
>    should be based on absolute time, as reflected in this PR comment
>    <https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/36639#issuecomment-2021080626>.
> Shubham
>    Mehta and Kaxil Naik will reach out to Sungwon Yun to see if he is
>    interested in being part of this effort.
>    - AIP-65 (DAG Versioning—UI side): Before the next dev call, Jedidiah
>    Cunningham will decide whether to keep this AIP or make it part of any
>    existing DAG Versioning or UI Modernization AIP.
>    - AIP-67 (Multi-team): Jarek Potiuk will revise this AIP based on all
>    the discussions and new AIPs to present the overview in the next dev
>    call. Shubham Mehta and his team are planning to co-own/contribute to
> this
>    AIP with Jarek.
>    - AIP-68 (Extending plugin interface): Jens Scheffler & Brent will
>    create a POC PR to determine the direction to take. Jens will do it
> before
>    the next dev call to then get the final feedback on 2.10.x vs 3.0.
>    - AIP-69 (Remote Executor): Jens Scheffler organized a call with
>    interested contributors a day after the dev call to get feedback. A
> summary
>    of it is posted here
>    <https://lists.apache.org/thread/h2nxkto0lxgjnqj8yps0qsh7ppbccx6g>.
>
>
>
> Updates on the "*other candidates for 3.0*" list:
>
>    - *Enhanced Data Awareness*: Tzu-ping Chung and Constance
>    Martineau created draft AIPs (AIP-74
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/%5BWIP%5D+AIP-74+Introducing+Data+Assets
> >
>    , AIP-75
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/%5BWIP%5D+AIP-75+New+Asset-Centric+Syntax
> >
>    , AIP-76
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/%5BWIP%5D+AIP-76+Asset+Partitions
> >
>    , AIP-77
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/%5BWIP%5D+AIP-77+Asset+Validations
> >)
>    for this workstream (under Umbrella AIP: AIP-73
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-73+Expanded+Data+Awareness
> >).
>    These AIPs are marked for Airflow 3.0 but AIP-77 might move to Airflow
> 3.1,
>    TBD for now.
>    - *Scheduler-Managed Backills *(aka Backfills at scale): Daniel
>    Standish has an internal draft for it that will be published around next
>    week.
>    - *Poll external Datasets to have event-based DAG scheduling: *Vincent
>    BECK volunteered to own this epic for *3.0*. He and Shubham Mehta plan
>    to publish a draft AIP in the next 2 weeks.
>    - Dennis Ferruzzi has volunteered to own the "*Inspect & Simplify
>    Airflow Configurations*" & "*Inspect & Revamp the cardinality of
> Metrics*"
>    streams.
>    - *Synchronous DAG Execution*: No update this week but targeting a
>    proposal after the next dev call
>    - *Make Execution Date non-unique for a DAG*: No update for now; TP is
>    focussing on the Data Awareness AIPs.
>    - *Scheduler Performance Improvements*: Some areas in the scheduler have
>    been identified for improvements. If anyone has any specific areas of
> the
>    Scheduler loop that they would like to own, please add them to the
> list on Airflow
>    3 Workstreams
>    <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Workstreams
> >.
>    The performance goals would be tied to the specific area of optimization
>    rather than the scheduler as a whole.
>    - *Consider Developing Airflow and Providers separately*. In the coming
>    weeks, Kaxil Naik will draft a pro-cons list in a document to send to
> the
>    mailing list around this epic.
>    - *Respect permissions in CLI*: Buğra Öztürk has volunteered to own this
>    stream and, ideally, will start working on a proposal next.
>    - *Improve security of Airflow Supply Chain*: Once things are more
>    defined, Jarek Potiuk will send a document about this stream of work
>    describing its impact on dependencies in the coming month.
>    - *Observability of Callbacks on UI*: Some of this might be covered in
>    AIP-72 & AIP-69 but we will keep this item in the table so we don't
> forget
>    about it.
>    - *Remove StatsD and replace it with Prometheus as a first-class
> citizen*:
>    We agreed that we should replace StatsD with OpenTelemetry and not
>    Prometheus. It needs an owner who could figure out the impact of
> breaking
>    changes since StatsD metrics are utilized by all users, including
> Airflow
>    service providers, to monitor and alert on the health of Airflow
>    deployments.
>    - *Overhaul Operator Templating behaviour*: Tzu-ping Chung mentioned he
>    would be happy to write the design document & asked for someone to work
> on
>    the implementation. Shahar Epstein expressed his interest in working on
>    this effort.
>    - Shubham Mehta expressed interest in working on a native DAG Factory
>    that is currently on the 3.1 list. We would keep this for 3.1 for now
> and
>    reevaluate based on the progress of other epics.
>    - There have been no noteworthy updates on any other streams. Kaxil
>    Naik will create GitHub issues for items in that table with no owners
> and
>    post them on the mailing list to see if anyone is interested in leading
> it.
>    If there are no takers by the end of August, they will be moved to the
> 3.1+
>    list.
>
>
> The next dev call will be on 11 Jul 2024.
>

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