Good question. I always found it confusing to have some providers at different 
level. Examples:
- "airbyte" in "providers" directory (I would qualify it as "regular" provider)
- "hive" in "providers/apache"
- "amazon" in "providers" but which contains only one sub directory "aws"

I would be in favor of using "-" instead of "/" so that all providers are at 
the same level.


On 2025/01/07 16:38:10 Ash Berlin-Taylor wrote:
> +1 one to this on general terms, it will hopefully reduce a lot of the 
> boilerplate we need.
> 
> As for the amazon/aws example specifically that does bring up a question, 
> should we have `/` or `-`.. to give some examples:
> 
> cncf kubernetes: ./providers/cncf/kubernetes or ./providers/cncf-kubernetes
> Apache hive: ./providers/apache/hive or ./providers/apache-hive
> AWS: ./providers/amazon/aws or ./providers/amazon-aws
> 
> There is no requirement from python etc on one form or the other (as it’s 
> just a folder, not part of the module name), so it’s what ever makes most 
> sense to us.
> 
> Jarek and Dennis (and others): what are your preferences on these styles?
> 
> -ash
> 
> > On 6 Jan 2025, at 22:51, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Oh. . And one other benefit of it will be that we will be able to get rid
> > of about 40% of the "Providers Manager" code. Currently, in Providers
> > manager we have a lot of "ifs" that make it possible to use providers in
> > breeze and local environment from the sources. In "production" installation
> > we are using "get_provider_info"  entry points to discover providers and
> > discover if provider is installed, but when you use current providers
> > installed in Breeze to inside "airflow", we rely on `provider.yaml` to be
> > present in the "airflow.providers.PROVIDER_ID" path - so we effectively
> > have two paths of discovering information about the providers installed.
> > 
> > After all providers are migrated to the new structure, all providers are
> > separate "distributions" - and when you run `uv sync`  (which will install
> > all providers thanks to workspace feature) or `pip install -e
> > ./providers/aws` (which you will have to do manually to work on the
> > provider - if you use `pip` rather than uv) - then we will not have to use
> > the separate path to read provider.yaml, because the right entrypoint for
> > the provider will be installed as well - so we will be able to get rid of
> > quite some code that is currently only used in airflow development
> > environment.
> > 
> > J.
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 11:41 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Those are very good questions :)
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 10:54 PM Ferruzzi, Dennis
> >> <ferru...@amazon.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> To clarify that I understand your diagram correctly, let's say you clone
> >>> the Airflow repo to ~/workspace/airflow/.  Does this mean that the AWS 
> >>> Glue
> >>> Hook which used to live at
> >>> ~/workspace/airflow/providers/amazon/aws/hooks/glue.py (as a random
> >>> example) will be located at
> >>> ~/workspace/airflow/providers/amazon/aws/src/airflow/providers/amazon/aws/hooks/glue.py?
> >>> That feels unnecessarily repetitive to me, maybe it makes sense but I'm
> >>> missing the context?
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Yes - it means that there is this repetitiveness but for a good reason -
> >> those two "amazon/aws" serve different purpose:
> >> 
> >> * The first "providers/amazon/aws" is just where the whole provider
> >> "complete project" is stored - it's basically a directory where "aws
> >> provider" is stored, a convenient folder to locate it in, that makes it
> >> separate from other providers
> >> * The second "src/airflow/providers/amazon/aws" - is the python
> >> package where the source files is stored - this is how (inside the
> >> sub-folder) you tell the actual python "import" to look for the sources.
> >> 
> >> .What really matters is that (eventually)
> >> `~/workspace/airflow/providers/amazon/aws/` can be treated as a completely
> >> separate python project - a source of a "standalone" provider python
> >> project.
> >> There is a "pyproject.toml" file at the root of it and if you do this (for
> >> example):
> >> 
> >> cd providers/amazon/aws/
> >> uv sync
> >> 
> >> And with it you will be able to work on AWS provider exclusively as a
> >> separate project (this is not yet complete with the move - tests are not
> >> entirely possible to run today - but it will be possible as next step - I
> >> explained it in
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45259#issuecomment-2572427916
> >> 
> >> This has a number of benefits, but one of them is that you will be able to
> >> build provider by just running `build` command of your favourite
> >> PEP-standard compliant frontend:
> >> 
> >> cd providers/amazon/aws/
> >> `uv build` (or `hatch build` or `poetry build` or `flit build` )....
> >> 
> >> This will create  the provider package inside the `dist" folder. I just
> >> did it in my PR with `uv` in the first "airbyte` project:
> >> 
> >> root@d74b3136d62f:/opt/airflow/providers/airbyte# uv build
> >> Building source distribution...
> >> Building wheel from source distribution...
> >> Successfully built dist/apache_airflow_providers_airbyte-5.0.0.tar.gz
> >> Successfully built
> >> dist/apache_airflow_providers_airbyte-5.0.0-py3-none-any.whl
> >> 
> >> That's it. That also allows cases like installing provider packages using
> >> git URLs - which I used earlier today to test if the incoming PR of
> >> pygments is actually solving the problem we had yesteday
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45416  (basically we just make our
> >> provider packages "standard" python packages that all the tools support.
> >> Anyone who would like to install a commit, hash or branch version of the
> >> "airbyte" package from main version of Airflow repo will be able to do:
> >> 
> >> pip install "apache-airflow-providers-airbyte @ git+
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow.git/providers/airbyte@COMMIT_ID";
> >> 
> >> Currently in order to create the package we need to manually extract the
> >> "amazon" subtree, copy it elsewhere, prepare dynamically some files
> >> (pyproject.toml, README.rst and few others) and only then we  build the
> >> package. All this - copying file structure, creating new files, running the
> >> build command after and finally deleting the copied files is now -
> >> dynamically and under-the-hood created by "breeze release-management
> >> prepare-provider-packages" command. With this change, the directory
> >> structure in `git` repo of ours is totally standard and allows us (and
> >> anyone else) to build the package directly from it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And what is the plan for system tests?   As part of this reorganization,
> >>> could they be moved into providers/{PROVIDER_ID}/tests/system?  That seems
> >>> more intuitive to me than their current location in
> >>> providers/tests/system/{PROVIDER_ID}/example_foo.py.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> Oh yeah - I missed that in the original structure as the "airbyte"
> >> provider (that I chose as first one) did not contain the "system" tests -
> >> but one of the two providers after that i was planning to make sure system
> >> tests are covered. They are supposed to be moved to "tests/system" of
> >> course - Elad had similar question and I also explained it in detail in
> >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45259#issuecomment-2572427916
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I hope it answers the questions. If not - I am happy to add more
> >> clarifications :)
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> J.
> >>> 
> >> 
> 
> 

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