> Pulling a connection from the DB itself shouldn’t/can’t be slow - It’s a 
> single row. I think I’m just confused or misdirected about your comment about 
> database here. Can you give a concrete example of the change you would make, 
> and how this will speed things up?

It's not only pulling, I saw some tests creating multiple test connections 
before each tests, and the those connections being retrieved multiple times 
within tests, not that it's super slow, but it won't make tests lightning fast 
either imho.

> So what are you actually proposing?

I would propose a common test helper function which returns a mocked Airflow 
connection, and for the providers we will need to mock the SDK once direct DB 
connection won't be possible anymore (which is good).

 > We have to be aware of making our tests overly fragile if we replace 
 > everything with mocks, then we are only testing our mocks and not the real 
 > behaviour.

Normally this behaviour should be tested in dedicated integration tests, not on 
each unit test for hooks/operators/sensors/triggers and could be tested in a 
generic matter imho.  That’s what I mean with "slow down", too much tests are 
doing this (especially in the providers).  But I agree (and very good point) we 
should be careful and make sure we don't purely rely tests on mocks, hence why 
integration tests.  I've stumbled this week on a test in Airflow provider where 
the mocked feature was indeed making the test succeed, but was in fact lacking 
a real implementation (e.g. Elasticsearch) thus not working at all.  Such 
things (only testing mocks or tests that in fact test nothing like you suggest) 
can be detected through mutation testing, but those are slow and expensive, not 
that they should run each time (maybe only on master for example), but could 
help monitor the quality of the tests, so it would have detected the case I 
described and the point that you made (e.g. fragile tests).

-----Original Message-----
From: Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> 
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2025 10:28
To: dev@airflow.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove creation of real Airflow connections in provider 
unit tests

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The providers tests will soon (but possibly not before 3.0 at this point) need 
to be converted to use the TaskSDK properly which won’t/can't actually use the 
DB, so we will need to do something soon.

> Hence that’s why when I do refactorings in provider unit tests, I’ve 
> already replaced those real connections with mocked ones making tests 
> run faster locally (no database needed)

Pulling a connection from the DB itself shouldn’t/can’t be slow - It’s a single 
row. I think I’m just confused or misdirected about your comment about database 
here. Can you give a concrete example of the change you would make, and how 
this will speed things up?

To my mind creating/obtaining the Connection object isn’t the slow part, but 
doing anything with that connection. But connections don’t actually do the 
connecting/opening sockets/network requests — that’s all in the Hook classes.

So what are you actually proposing?

We have to be aware of making our tests overly fragile if we replace everything 
with mocks, then we are only testing our mocks and not the real behaviour.

-ash


> On 7 Feb 2025, at 08:50, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> +10 on that. My next step after finishing Provider's move, was to make
> essentially all unit tests in Providers non-DB tests and removing 
> "real connection" usage is part of it.
>
> This is essentially stage 3 of
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>  that is planned and I want to make POC and indeed involve others in 
> crowd-sourcing the change (similar to provider's move) after I figure out how 
> to do it.
>
> J.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:35 AM Blain David <david.bl...@infrabel.be> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> The caplog vote triggered me to launch this proposal as it’s also 
>> related to unit testing, and as I think we want our unit tests as 
>> clean and as simple and as fast as possible.
>>
>> I think it would be a good practise to not define and create real 
>> Airflow connections within the providers unit tests (which use the 
>> Airflow test database), as normally when writing unit tests those 
>> should be isolated and not be depend on any external systems like a database.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also in my case those make the tests to run slower.  Beside that I 
>> ‘ve also noticed when working on some PR regarding providers, 
>> sometimes there are some glitches within the CI/CD which seem to 
>> cause issues with those “real” connections, causing tests to randomly fail.
>>
>> Hence that’s why when I do refactorings in provider unit tests, I’ve 
>> already replaced those real connections with mocked ones making tests 
>> run faster locally (no database needed) and no more random failures 
>> during tests (possibly preceding tests that mess up connections).
>>
>> That’s doesn’t mean we don’t want to use the database of course 
>> during tests, I’m just saying it’s a bit of overkill to use a 
>> database in a unit test just to get a connection.
>>
>>
>>
>> We could also create a common mocking method for connections in 
>> tests_common and use it across all unit tests, now those are mostly 
>> redefined across different provider tests.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course I’m willing to contribute on this one, what do you think 
>> about this idea?  Personally, I think this can only make maintenance 
>> easier (and prevent random failures and faster tests results).
>>
>>
>>
>> Curious of your thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *David Blain*
>>
>> Data Engineer *at* ICT-514 - BI End User Reporting
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


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