Amazing work team!
Kudos to everyone who contributed to this effort.

It was wonderful to see this coming together and I was amazed how quickly
all of you made this happen.

Vikram


On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 9:10 AM Shahar Epstein <sha...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Jarek and everyone involved, great step!
>
>
> Shahar
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2025, 11:40 Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a pleasure to announce that the provider's move to the new
> structure
> > is now complete. We have no more providers in "providers/src". Many, many
> > thanks to all those who helped, truly collaborated and learned from each
> > other during the migration process. This was quite a journey, where I
> > set-off the migration, and went to Brussels for almost a week of
> conference
> > where I had very little time, yet things were moving with the lightning
> > speed with only a little of my help and encouragement.
> >
> > The Airflow community is the best!
> >
> > Thanks to - In no particular order:
> >
> >
> > *Kalyan, Pratiksha, Elad, Rahul, Shubham, Kunal, Josix, Bugra, LIU ZHE
> YOU,
> > Amogh, Aritra, Nikolas, got686-yandex, David Blain, Ambika, Idris, Ankit,
> > Mikhail Dengin, Dennis, Jens *
> > And anyone else who I missed. This has been fantastic teamwork :). So
> many
> > people got involved and helped.
> >
> > *THANK YOU! *
> >
> > *What do we have now?*
> >
> > Each provider now has its own pyproject.toml file and is effectively a
> > separate sub-project in our monorepo. There are few things it enables a
> few
> > things:
> >
> > a) you can easily build each provider now with just `hatch build .` or
> > `flit build .` or any other frontend - making the providers "modern
> > standard PEP-compliant"
> > b) you can install the "main" (or any other branch or commit) version of
> > the provider using github URL. This for example allows for easy testing
> of
> > not-yet-released providers: any of the "developer-focused" users who
> would
> > like to use the "main" version with changes they introduced for example,
> > could  install such pre-release providers in their environment very
> easily
> > now.
> > c) we can now start proceeding with next steps - making core truly
> > independent from providers (there are still some references, tests and
> > dependencies left) and proceed with further simplifying of our CI and
> > turning all db-tests in providers into non-db tests (to make sure that
> they
> > are not dependent on the DB while we switch to Task SDK) -  following
> steps
> > 2-4 outlined in
> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/42632#issuecomment-2449671014
> > d) removal of a lot of code that handled the old ways of doing things
> where
> > sources of providers were shared with Airflow.
> >
> >
> > *One watchout !!!!:  *
> > Currently on MacOS you can hit `*too many open files*` errors when
> running
> > `uv sync`. This issue is being worked on by Astral team  in
> > https://github.com/astral-sh/uv/issues/11296  (they are happy to have
> > airflow again stretching the limits of `uv` - as they wrote "airflow is
> > their favourite benchmark and test case"). This is in essence caused by a
> > very low limit set by default on the number of opened files by MacOS
> (256).
> >
> > It is easily mitigated by adding `*ulimit -n 2048*` in your .bashrc or
> > .zshrc and we described it in the docs. but it would be nice to have it
> > fixed in `uv` eventually and get `uv sync` works out-of-the-box for
> Airflow
> > - I am quite sure that the Astral team will fix it soon. For now I added
> an
> > explanation in
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/main/contributing-docs/07_local_virtualenv.rst
> > and will further clarify that it should be done in your .rc file to be
> > persistent.
> >
> >
> > *What's coming?*
> > What's next is a cleanup. We still have quite a lot of duplicated code to
> > remove, and few places where we still manually emulate `uv workspace`
> > rather than use it.
> >
> >
> > *Personal note*
> > It's been quite a journey for me personally.
> >
> > Ash had always "complained" about the current setup and we both agreed
> that
> > having a "proper" monorepo with separate sub-projects is a good thing to
> > have. But the tooling was not there. The standards were not there for
> > years. Python packaging PEPs implemented in the last few years and
> tooling
> > improvements (notably `uv workspace` that I helped Charlie and Astral
> team
> > to design to fit our case) had to catch-up, and the last few years Python
> > packaging had improved immensely and it's picking up speed. I made my
> first
> > POC to move the providers in December 2022:
> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/28292  and the first email on the
> > devlist I sent about it was 12th December 2022:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/3s5tn1wnvo0cw9vofwmbjl0rkyvhrtbx . But
> > back
> > then it would be far too complex for our contributors to use, without all
> > the tooling support and standards.
> >
> > TP particularly, who is a packaging team committee has been driving a lot
> > of those in the Packaging team and he deserves an absolute shout-out
> here.
> > He is a bit of a silent hero who discusses and participates in many PEPs
> > that we make use of.
> >
> > But even though it was me who mostly pushed and pulled many strings
> around
> > it - and TP who was actively participating in the process - it was all
> > community effort. We not only patiently waited for it but also actively
> > helped to move the standards, encouraged them and helped others to
> > implement features that we needed. So it's more than 2 years of intense
> > work of packaging team, introduction of new tool (`uv`) in packaging
> space
> > and us making incremental improvements, switching to modern PEP standards
> > in December 2023 and many other small things that could be seen as "yacc
> > beating" as some might call it, but eventually were needed those many
> > smaller and bigger things to get here.
> >
> > *And the journey is absolutely not over:*
> >
> > I am also looking forward to what's coming and I am also planning to help
> > in Python community and get involved (and help to shape) a few other
> things
> > that are in progress that will (finally) catch-up with what Airflow needs
> > are, so that we can finally get rid of even more custom code we have and
> > improve both development and security of our processes and reflect more
> the
> > way we (and the Apache Software Foundation works), I hope to have some
> more
> > time after we complete the current packaging work to help with those - i
> > promised it in a few of those, but I had to yet deliver my promise. And
> > also anyone in the community here is welcome to help as well, as you see,
> > it eventually pays off.
> >
> > * https://peps.python.org/pep-0751/ -> *A file format to record Python
> > dependencies for installation reproducibility *-> this will finally
> codify
> > what we do as a "poor man's" solution with constraints. I've been waiting
> > for that one to be there for years, and there was a rejected version of
> it
> > (TP participated in it) - but it looks like we are getting there to make
> it
> > a "standard" that we - and tooling out there - will just be able to
> follow
> > * https://peps.python.org/pep-0752/ ->  *Implicit namespaces for package
> > repositories* -> will be helpful for naming of our packages in PyPI to be
> > consistent and not hi-jacked
> > * https://peps.python.org/pep-0770/ *-> Improving measurability of
> Python
> > packages with Software Bill-of-Materials* - where we will be able to
> embed
> > our SBOMS we already generate in PyPI metadata
> > * https://peps.python.org/pep-0771/ -> *Default Extras for Python
> Software
> > Packages* - which will allow us to get rid of our custom "preinstalled
> > packages"
> > * https://peps.python.org/pep-0735/ -> *Dependency Groups in
> > pyproject.toml*
> > - which we already partially use, but once `pip` releases it (already
> > merged and planned to be released in 25.1 - will allow us to replace our
> > `extras` with dependency groups for development
> >
> > ... and more to come ....
> >
> > All these things we need for our workflows and setup and so far we had to
> > do some "custom" band-aid solutions, but the awesome packaging team is
> > discussing and implementing things to make all those "first class
> citizens"
> > in Python packaging and it will let us switch to those.
> >
> > Looking forward to all those improvements in the (near) future. Looks
> like
> > the next few years will keep me (and others) busy with those.
> >
> > J.
> >
>

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